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Old 05-08-17, 18:33
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Default Technical Assistance: M38A1-CND3

I am helping a friend get his M38A1-CND3 (MFR SER#100202 Del 6-71) operating and I have 2 questions for the M38A1 experts:
1) the Engine Primer Pump - where does it pull the fuel from and where does it push it too? I can see the fuel tank line, in line fuel filter, fuel pump and steel line up to the carburetor but I don't see the primer pump hosing on the engine side of the firewall. I am trying to see if it is working correctly or not.
2) the Fording Control lever is not hooked up. Does it control a single wire or two wires into the engine compartment? I see 2 disconnected metal wires in metal jackets protruding through the firewall. Choke and throttle advance wires are working correctly.
We have ignition and proper battery voltage (24V) but I'm not getting fuel into the carburetor. New fuel tank was installed by the owner.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Old 05-08-17, 22:25
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Dole primer pump receives It's fuel from a T in the fuel line on the right side of the frame near the starter, and injects in into nozzles into the intake located on the carb side of the engine (one front and one back)head next to the carb. Usually this system is disconnected and the nozzles were not in the replacement engines, rather the holes would be capped.

Fording control cable controls two 90° valves, one at the PCV valve located near the fuel pump, and one between the intake air and the oil filler tube. These are most often found wired up, hopefully in the open position.

No fuel to the carb? Remove the line at the carb, add on a piece of rubber fuel line and suck. You are going to get the great taste of gas, but you will then know the potenti9al is there to draw fuel. Once you have your mouthful of gas, crank the engine and see if fuel is spurting from your freshly primed system.

There are other ways of doing it, but I'm giving you the quick and easy, albeit not tasty, method.
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Old 06-08-17, 02:34
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Default Tasty M38A1 Petrol

Rob, thanks for the M38A1 advice. This jeep hasn't run in quite a while so I'm sure it is dry as a bone. Will post pictures and progress reports shortly.
Cheers, Richard
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Old 06-08-17, 03:15
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Forgot to mention, after you get that mouthful of gas, try and blow the fuel back down the line. If the fuel goes, then the checkvalves in the fuel pump are faulty. But if you try before you suck the fuel, they may well leak anyway as they do not seal so well after they have dried out.
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Old 12-08-17, 22:14
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Default Fuel Good/Ignition Bad M38A1

Thanks Rob for your advice. I was able to confirm that the carburetor is getting fuel from the fuel pump. The fine screen that is located just inside the carburetor fuel inlet was dirty so I cleaned it and re-installed. I was told that the carburetor had been serviced?????
Now, I am not getting ignition. I suspect that the plugs maybe fouled. I have not removed waterproof plugs before. Before I start wrenching things apart, is there a proper procedure or is there a need for a special tool?
The M38A1 didn't come with the service/maintenance manual or tool kit. All ideas welcome.
Regards, Richard
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Old 13-08-17, 00:30
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Richard.

Nothing special about removal of waterproof plugs. Unscrew the wires from the top of the plugs with an appropriate sized wrench and then a standard spark plug socket can be used to remove the plugs.

David
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The M38A1 didn't come with the service/maintenance manual or tool kit. All ideas welcome.
Regards, Richard
The basic tool kit in the Reserves circa 1976 to 1982 was:
bottle jack
jack handle with a joint in the middle
short tire wrench
long tire pressure gauge
maybe an 8" crescent wrench
maybe a straight blade screw driver
and very importantly, a SPOUT, FLEXIBLE ie horse c0ck for refuelling

All would be in a fold-top grubby canvas bag under the passenger's seat.

A conventional short handle round-nose shovel would be mounted under the hood. Always useful when the 17 or 18-yr old driver got it into a snowbank.
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