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Old 04-09-07, 02:15
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Default JATO rocket and unknown piece???

See pics of JATO rocket and a beautiful piece of machined exhaust bell ?? The polished piece is marked Part# 600-13058-909 Serial # BAW-LN-55 Feb/64... CF 100/101/T-33??? Any ideas? Sorry the pics of JATO are being returned as to big for the file. Will try again. Cheers Rob
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Old 04-09-07, 05:38
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Jet Assisted Take Off (JATO) bottles were, IIRC, harnessed on to various military aircraft particularly in the early '60s.

Their purpose, again, IIRC, was to facilitate STOL (Short Take Off and Landing) before aviation technology allowed such a procedure.

The advent of such aircraft as the Herc and Buffalo (STOL capable) pretty well doomed the JATO application.

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Old 04-09-07, 06:44
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The part number for your exhaust piece is challenging. I maintain a set of the old microfiche from the early and late 80s as a reference for obsolete stock numbers. Your number does not show up in the early 80s. However, a check of the LOCAT shows similar stock numbers, and gives the manufacture code of 88308. This code cross refers to Canadair/Bombardier, and one of the similar part numbers refers to the Dash-8. Since this aircraft was purchased in small numbers, it is possible that Canada did not inventory parts for it under NSNs, and instead bought spares using only the Canadair numbers.

Perhaps tommorrow I will dig up my later fiches and see if it shows up there, since the Dash-8 was a somewhat late purchase.

(The date on the piece does not fit in...there were no Dash-8 in 65. Are you sure of that marking, or could it be a 85?)

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Old 04-09-07, 11:59
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Default The Hercules was JATO capable

a quick search on hercules and JATO produced may results, among them this image http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0933889.
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Old 04-09-07, 12:25
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I've actually seen a JATO demonstration on a Herc; it came in low then fired the JATO unit with an unholy bang and climbed like a rocket. Interesting!
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Old 04-09-07, 16:11
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I've seen a few Hercs take off with JATO assist and one PBY Catalina. The Cat was at a Vancouver airshow in about 1960 and the Hercs were at Moose Jaw. It's an interesting spectacle to watch.
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Old 04-09-07, 20:12
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there was a test where a Herc landed on a aircraft carrier and used a rocket system for take off, looked crazy.
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Old 05-09-07, 01:44
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Default Re: Herky Bird

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I've actually seen a JATO demonstration on a Herc; Interesting!
Here's some:
Chilean JATO C-130
Airshow JATO demo
Then, of course, they also tried Jet Assisted Landing, or JAL. None of this funny stuff for me, I'll stick to conventional aircraft!
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Old 05-09-07, 02:12
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None of this funny stuff for me, I'll stick to conventional aircraft!
But not on an aircraft carrier, I'll wager...

The guys who did THAT must have been shaking like leaves for DAYS afterwards... and to think the U.S. Navy is dry!

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Old 05-09-07, 02:59
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Old 05-09-07, 03:04
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Default Winston is aging...

as are we all! His nose alway's seem to point East!! Cheers Rob
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a quick search on hercules and JATO produced may results, among them this image http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0933889.
I humbly stand corrected.
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Old 05-09-07, 12:04
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as are we all! His nose alway's seem to point East!! Cheers Rob
I'm afraid old Winston wouldn't want to be "East" right now... it's 'pithing'* outside right now. Lairdtund'rin'jaisusbyes, she's goin' ta be snowin' soon!



*thanks to C.D. for inventing and Gunner Mike for launching this new addition to the MLU lexicon!
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Old 06-09-07, 08:59
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Jon you are partly correct.

C130's up to the H models could take the bottles, but from the H model onwards the provision to mount and fire them was deleted.

Also the correct name is RATO, as they are rockets and not jets.

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Old 06-09-07, 09:03
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He might be getting old, but a truelly lovely dog.

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Old 06-09-07, 11:47
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He might be getting old, but a truly lovely dog.
Who, Jon? He is old, but I don't know about 'lovely' so much... maybe it's in the eye of the beholder...

Oh waitaminute... you meant WINSTON... ah, ok.
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Old 14-09-07, 02:18
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Default Unknown piece ID. solved...

A nice chap at Bristol Aerospace helped me out with my old part numbers. It is a nozzle kit for a Black Brandt Mk3A rocket, NOS.. Cool! Cheers Rob
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Wasn't the Black Brant the one they used to fly the Avro Arrow models over the Great Lakes?
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