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Old 24-12-09, 22:01
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Anyone know what the size and "font" (if that's the proper term for numerals) is for the ECC stencil found on the front bumper of some SMP vehs.
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Old 25-12-09, 18:01
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For some us who may not be up on abbreviations could you tell us what ECC and SMP stand for and what time period they were used?

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Hi Jon

For some us who may not be up on abbreviations could you tell us what ECC and SMP stand for and what time period they were used?

Cheers Phil
Phil,
These are terms for post-war Canadian vehicles. SMP is Standard Military Pattern and was used primarily with the M-series (CDN) such as the 1/4 ton, 3/4 ton and 2 1/2 ton. The ECC is the Equipment Configuration Cde and basically identifies the body. In the photo below is the 121301 ECC for the 106 Recoilless Rifle body mounted on the M38A1.

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Below is a list from DND showing a list of M151A2s and some of the ECCs used;

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Old 25-12-09, 21:05
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There ya go Phil, from Clive.

Clive: The M38A1C 106 shows an ECC of 121301. So, how come my M38A1CDN3 data plate shows the same ECC? Mid production interruption of "standard" 121301s to accommodate new, urgent requirement, perhaps?
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Old 25-12-09, 23:00
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I think that all the Cdn3 data plates would have had the 121301 ECC from the factory. The ECCs would change upon the installation of an adapter kit. The actual ECC for a 106 modified Cdn 3 was 121310. The mod instruction for the 106 recoiless rifle adapter kit mentions that:

"EQUIPMENT CONFIGURATION CODE

2. On completion of this instruction the truck, 1/4 ton ECC 121201, ECC 121201 or ECC 121301 will be converted to ECC12110, 121210 or 121310 respectively."

Those would be the ECCs for the M38A1 (53 pattern), the Cdn2 (67 pattern) or the Cdn 3 (70 pattern) jeeps.

The Cdn3 CFR shown in the photo is out of sequence for what I normally saw on recoilless jeeps. With the basic ECC on the bumper, it may have been that the kit was installed for the UN deployment. Most of the ones I ever saw were around the 09000 CFR range. Those were converted at a higher level of maintenance than second line. I recall one of the civilian employees complaining at base maintenance that after they had spent considerable time installing the recoilless installation kits on a batch of 53 pattern M38A1s, they hadn't even issued them when the Cdn3s showed up with the installation kits already on them.
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Old 26-12-09, 01:20
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Default OK now back to the orginal question

Anyone know what the size and "font" (if that's the proper term for numerals) is for the ECC stencil found on the front bumper of some SMP vehs.

From Jon's question I would hazard a guess that he is working on replicating correctly the correct style/font the markings. Somebody must have a manual that covers this.

And thanks guys for getting an abbreviation challenge individual (me) on topic.

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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the ECC Number Stencil, based on the pic above, is probably the "usual" 1" simple Block lettering that is derived from the those really heavy, big round, stencil making machines that are prevelent in the CF. Same ones used for marking Tire Pressures, labelling Barrack Boxes to name a few examples. As for font, they are simple straight Block letters.

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