Asbestos Replacment products

[Michael Hughes]

Hi all, I am looking for a replacement product to use on the engine bay panels on the cab 12 instead of the asbestos any suggestions.

[Mike Timoshyk]

I used the aluminium wrap that is used for insulating water tanks and other heating units. It is aluminum on both sides with a fiberglass between. I use it on my Cab13 dog house and it works very well. You can cut it with scissors and tape it with aluminum heating duct tape. Works great. and sound proofs as well.

cheers

Mike Timoshyk

[cmperry4]

Originally Posted by Michael Hughes

Hi all, I am looking for a replacement product to use on the engine bay panels on the cab 12 instead of the asbestos any suggestions.

Been looking for something similar myself - removed 1/4 thick sheets from the shell section of my HUP and would like to replace them.

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Mike Timoshyk

I used the aluminium wrap that is used for insulating water tanks and other heating units. It is aluminum on both sides with a fiberglass between. I use it on my Cab13 dog house and it works very well. You can cut it with scissors and tape it with aluminum heating duct tape. Works great. and sound proofs as well.

cheers

Mike Timoshyk

Something like This stuff?

[Mike Timoshyk]

Hi Tony,

I believe that is one sided with the carpet/cloth fibers....that would do however I found that the both sided aluminium was less messy and provided an additional layer of insulation. check out the hardware store....it is less expensive as well.

cheers

Mike

[Stewart Loy]

Gents,

I had really good luck with DynaMat Extreme. This heavy foil is backed with a rubbery substance that you peel-and-stick to the surface. It really deadened the sound and reduced heat coming from the engine in my 13 cab 15 cwt truck.

It is only 1/8" thick so it can be placed very close to all components. It is thin enough to be formed over bulges and bumps in the sheet metal. The sticky stuff is sticky - so only put it where you want it to be.

I got mine from a hotrod guy near Essex, Ontario.


Stewart

[Bob Carriere]

The Duramat Extrmee can withstand heat up to 300 degree F.....

My concern is that with the tight fitting doghouse of the cab 11..... I have less than one inch of clearance between the engine cover side and the intake/exhaust manifold of the 261 engine on the passenger side..... wondering if it can withstand that kind of heat on a long run.....

I have been thinking of salvaging some asbestos cloth from old army tents.... that asbestos is usually found around the wood stove chimney outlet..... maybe salvage just enough to do a 6" by 8" patch over the Duramat X just in the one hot spot of the manifold.....

Wondering what Phil Waterman used on his cab 12........??

Would love to hear what others have used to replace the ill fated asbestos..?

What do you guys use in Australia..?

Boob

[hrpearce]

I haven't used anything yet as just puting a doghouse in place made a big difference too what I was used to .
I checked Ebay and a website link in an Ebay listing and DYNAMAT EXTREME is available in Melbourne so after the weaner sale in April I'll buy some . Stewart thanks for the brand name.

[rob love]

There is always the fire blankets like the welders use. Some of them are a pretty good look-a-like to the asbestos weave.

For those in the vicinity of Roses warehouse and surplus in Saskatoon, they still had packages of surplus asbestos cloth for around $20. I have one package of it hiding in the garage somewhere waiting for a project.

[Phil Waterman]

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

The Duramat Extrmee can withstand heat up to 300 degree F.....

My concern is that with the tight fitting doghouse of the cab 11..... .....

Wondering what Phil Waterman used on his cab 12........??

Would love to hear what others have used to replace the ill fated asbestos..?

What do you guys use in Australia..?

Boob

Bob - Don't tell anybody but because of the tight space to manifold on the Chev Pat 12 I used asbestos wrapped in aluminum. (Just in passing I've had training for and held certification for asbestos removal so I knew how to handle it) I had tried some of the more readily available heat shield products and had not found a good one though I understand some of the Lizardskin products may be the ticket http://www.lizardskin.com/lizard_skin/street_rods.php

When I redo the doghouses on my Cab 13s I think Lizardskin product.

Cheers Phil

[Ganmain Tony]

Other than Roberts info is there any further suggestions as to what we use and can get locally in Australia?

C'mon fellahs - ease up on the Christmas cheer and get foruming

Or not......

GT

[gjamo]

We used Nylex cab foam or lead impregnated vinyl for marine engine covers for years but don't think it is still available. Here is a link to some currently available stuff.

http://www.spec-net.com.au/pyrotek/sylomer.htm

I can't vouch for it but looks very similar.

Of course the old fashioned cheap way out was to use 100% woolen carpet glued to the inside of engine enclosures. Just be prepared to throw it out every couple of years if it gets oil soaked.

Cheers,

Graeme

[oztankboy]

Hi there!
Well in the past I have used the modern replacment for AC sheeting or what was known as "fibro"... now refered to a fibercement sheeting... well thats what its called down in Australia. No longer contains asbestos. It looks like much like the asbestos sheeting and is easy to cut to shape and does the much the same job and the asbestos sheeting did. Thickness is about 1/4" or 6mm and i have picked up off cuts from building sites to do small jobs.

Phil...

[Bob Carriere]

....last time I was at SAILS, just outside Montreal, I purchased surplus asbestos mitts.... probably intended for foundry use..... brand new for about $10.00 they are made out of course wooven asbestos in one bulky piece and the one stiched seam could be undone quite readily.... total surface area about a square foot. It might be just enough to place over whatever commercial blanket such as Duramat and extend the temp. range enough to work for critical areas such as near the exhaust manifold/engine cover.

I do have some 1/4 inch rigid asbestos board but would be useless for sound deadening.

Boob

[Ganmain Tony]

Any idea on cost Greame?

Bob & Phil,

Suggestions that sound very interesting, any pictures?

Ive still got the old staples in my cab 12 engine covers, will that fibro cement stuff be able to be attached using the staples ?

[oztankboy]

Hi Tony!

Well it can be a little brittle but if you pre drilled the holes 1st you should be right. In the Aust Chev CMPs the sheeting was held in place with fold over tabs. If I was doing it I would also use use a product like "Sikaflex" as a form of glue to help it keep inplace.

Oh just as a word of warning dont be tempted to use any realy old "fibro" say at least pre mid 80's as the older it gets the greater the chance it will contain asbestos and it will also be breaking down with age.

Phil...

[Ganmain Tony]

Beauty Phil

Thanks heaps I'm just about to embark on a heat sheilding solution. Will let you know what I eventually do.

F60L recent pics thread in softskin forum is the one to check out.

GT

[david moore]

My solution has been to leave the original asbestos board in place and cover it completely with wide alumunium duct tape. It adheres very well and keeps the asbestos under wraps - even maybe adds some more (reflective) heat insulation. The adhesive seems to hold up to the engine/exhaust heat.

I figure this is safer than fiddling with the million little staples to get the old asbestos off and breathing in the debris meanwhile.

[cletrac (RIP)]

I figure you should remove the asbestos outside when there's a cross wind so you won't breathe any of it in.

[cantankrs]

Originally Posted by cletrac

I figure you should remove the asbestos outside when there's a cross wind so you won't breathe any of it in.

Not much different from the reason why I mow the lawn around my old house wearing a dust mask..... (at some point before I bought it the asbestos sheeting was 'removed' during a past renovation).

Alex

[Bob Carriere]

Maybe the little field mice that have chewed up all the wiring insulation and carried away 95% of the asbestos are now coughing their little lungs out inside the some walls of my barn.....

Boob

[cantankrs]

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

Maybe the little field mice that have chewed up all the wiring insulation and carried away 95% of the asbestos are now coughing their little lungs out inside the some walls of my barn.....

I'd rather try not to breath the 5% the field mice left behind - need all the time I can get to work on restoration projects

Regards

Alex

[Ganmain Tony]

Originally Posted by cantankrs

I'd rather try not to breath the 5% the field mice left behind - need all the time I can get to work on restoration projects

Regards

Alex

And then of course there's the other 95% still hanging around in the Carpet python who lives in your roof that ate all the spotted lung field mice.

The Crocodile hunter could have launched a class action against James Hardie if the Sting Ray hadn't got him.

[cantankrs]

Fibro cracks with a bang in a fire. Otherwise we wouldn't have realised the creeper over the fence was alight due to a fault in the pool pump motor. We doused the fence with buckets of water from the pool..

Alex