looking for colour images of vehicles used in the desert after 1942

[RichardT10829]

anyone able to help, i got Mike starmers books but they are in black and white, there are colour swatches at the back but i cant get a feel for how it will look ? i dont want my carrier to be green, but it must be releavant to my grandads war... he was western destert / persia from 41 - late 42, he raided Scicily during Op Husky then eventually landed at salerno Italy sept 43.

most of the italy schemes are light mud with blue/black disruptive (ala Jordans and in that pattern i might add) late issue vehicles were all brown as a basic colour with a few variants having dark brown disruptive (Ala Big Mikes)

i cant use caunter as it was early desert scheme and discontinued end of 41 it was replaced with the ZI desert pink base and dark green disruptive......

i saw a Lee with sand base and brown disruptive with white and black thin borders around the brown disruptive....... love that style but cant use it as it was only used by one regiment and specifically on the "Lee".... i was thinking sand with brown disruptive (minus the lines) anyone able to throw their oar in here i really dont want a green carrier... you may ask "why worry now" but i am closer to this point than you might realise....


cheers in advance guys.


PS i have scheme books for western desert after alamein, and scicily / Italy books from May43 onwards if folk need pattern queries answered.

Richie

[cletrac (RIP)]

Here's a brown one off the IWM site. It's north Africa in January 1943.
IWM bren

[RichardT10829]

cheers this was taken in Tunisia and is the light mud with blue/black disruptive edging, described as "folliage", anyone got anymore ?

here is the light mud blu/black disruptive as used early on in Italy...

[cletrac (RIP)]

Richard,
You have to bear in mind that the base colour was desert stone or khaki in North Africa with the disruptive colour applied over there. When they went to Italy they were given the brown paint job but inside the engine house and other inaccessible places remained the initial colour. Some of the vehicles kept their Africa colours until they needed repainting in Italy. The same goes with the caunter scheme. Just because it was replaced end of 41 doesn't mean there weren't any vehicles still using it later in 42.
I kind of like that Syria/Persia scheme with desert stone and terra cotta. I wonder if they used that one on carriers too?
When you start painting your hull you just have to choose between the desert stone and khaki and can decide on the rest later.
The next truck I paint is going to have khaki base colour with the sand as disruptive since the sand colour shows oil leaks so much more on the undercarriage.

[Jordan Baker]

Richard

That small picture from the IWM is in Tunisia. Im off the mind that the carrier is painted SCC2 with the SCC1 (black) as the disruptive. That picture would have been taken in 1943. By that time carriers were being painted in the SCC2 colour.

The picture you posted is not the light mud and blue/black scheme used in Italy. Its my carrier painted for England in 1941-42 period. Its painted in KG#3 with the Black disruptive colour added as per pictures of the period. I played with the colour settings to give that image a washed out look.

Here is the original.

[RichardT10829]

hahaha well you have inadvertantly made it the colours i mentioned as the photo when printed out matches my swatches perfectly