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Hello,
I came across a FAT3 shell. Attached are the vehicle id tags. I am wondering if someone would like to volunteer some information regarding what this vehicle would have looked like, when it was in it's prime. Thanks! Regards, Richard
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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Hi Richard:
IIRC the FAT1 was the 11 cab, the FAT2 was the 12 cab, the FAT3 was the first of the 13 cab versions and had four doors. FATs 4,5 & 6 were variations with 6 being a soft top square backed beast that loooked like a HUP on steroids. See: http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=h...ch&um=1&itbs=1 Are you planning to do anything with your find? ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Mike Calnan Ubique! ("Everywhere", the sole Battle Honour of the Royal Regiment of Canadian Artillery) www.calnan.com/swords Last edited by Gunner; 29-05-12 at 20:08. Reason: typo |
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Mike,
Thanks for the clarification on the FAT designation. Included are some pics of the front and rear of the FAT3. It has a dump box attached to the chassis. Weird in that the back of the cab appears to be smooth and it doesn't look like someone chopped the back off. To extract the wreck, as well as two other FAT cabs, it will come close to costing about $1000 in equipment rentals, fuel and time. Is it worth it? Regards, Richard
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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Hi Richard:
You've hit on one of the fundamental questions of this crazy hobby. I have a very early Cab 11 tractor thats a mess but its worth keeping as it has a mix of Ford and Chev axles which was the norm for these early models. I'd love to restore it but need much more in the way of parts so recovering what you've found would be, to me, worth while. I'm not try to cut your grass here as the rule I've always followed is finders-keepers until the finder states otherwise, so don't worry that I'm on my way to your neck of the woods with my patented CMP locating device stuck to my windshield! ![]() Personally, I'm at the age and financial comfort level that I'm not dragging every wreck I find from the woods like I used to AND I have enough projects to keep me alive to age 374 years! The only things that will get my attnetion nowadays are guns (artillery peices) and artillery tractors so I would go the extra mile to recover what you found. The questions you have to ask yourself is what do you want to collect? What level of rebuild is within your grasp (time, money, effort)? Most importantly, what will your other half tolerate? ![]() Based on the photos you attached I would say your in for an interesting and challenging recovery. As for the cab back of the one with the FAT3 data plates I gues anything is possible... perhaps the parts migrated to another 60 cwt chassis, perhaps the previous owner grafted another cab onto the FAT3 chassis or robbed a cab back off another CMP. More research will help answer the questions. ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Hi Richard:
I took another look at the photos you posted. The front view is defintely a Cab 11 or 12 FAT and the back view just doesn't look like the same truck. I'm going to blow the photos up and get back to you. ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Gunner Mike,
Thanks for your comments and words of advice. As long as the kitchen gets redone, a far more expensive hobby than messing around with CMP trucks, I'm in the good. My apologies, I sent you the wrong frontal picture. Attached is the correct front picture. I have a dry barn here that I can store the shells. I'd hate to see them go to the scrap yard so I'm probably going to do this for charity. I'll keep you guys posted.
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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Hmm, now I have to get into my Gregg books tonight 'cause the FAT3 front is a Chev cab 11 or 12!
I would be interested in discussing the acquisition of the lot with you if you're interested. ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Gunner Mike,
If you discover something, let me know. I'll find out about the shell salvage situation at the end of the week. Send me a PM and we can discuss. Regards, Richard
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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The data plates can't originally be from any of the pictured vehicles. The vehicles are all 11 or 12 cabs and the FAT3 data plate says it's a Cab 13. They're definitely worth saving anyway. Probably more so because they're Cab 11 or 12.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set 1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis 1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun 1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends 1941 Cab 12 F15A 1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5 1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box 1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box 1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP 1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box 1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2 |
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Hi Dave:
I suspect you've hit the nail on the head WRT the data plates. ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Mike Calnan Ubique! ("Everywhere", the sole Battle Honour of the Royal Regiment of Canadian Artillery) www.calnan.com/swords |
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The first one with the square vents is a Ford cab 12...... Fat or diet...
The second one is a Chev.... round air vents...... too much sheet metal is missing to tell if it is a cab 11 or cab 12..... Stew Robertson is also working or restoring a Fat cab 12 and has the basis for a cab 13 arty as well...... he may have acquired other bits and pieces since starting his project. Good luck on the recovery. Bob
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Guys,
Sorry for causing you all to pull your hair out. I went back into my picture archives and re-ran the order in which the photos were shot. Attached is the upper cab of the FAT3 that the data plates came from. It is definitely a Cab 13. So the tally would be a FAT Cab 13, 2 Cab 11 or 12 FATs and the mystery dump truck. Thanks again for all of the info. I'll keep you posted on the progress. Regards, Richard
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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Guys,
I was at the property yesterday and I have some photos of the FAT-3 cab. I am going to back to the property on Wednesday to pick it up. From the bit of research that I've done, it seems like they didn't manufacture too many of the FAT-3 tractors so I don't have a lot of information to go off of. Let me know if anyone has more pictures of FAT-3's. Thanks, Richard
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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I got a FAT 3 restored , just dash and plates are missing . the difference with later FAT`s is that they don`t have the extra help springs fitted . and then there are the normal changes , like steering wheel , dash etc.
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Maurice,
Yes, I would be interested in seeing some of your FAT-3 pictures. Send me a PM with your email address and I can send you some higher resolution shots of the plates and the dash area of this FAT-3. Regards, Richard
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Richard Hatkoski 1940 CMP C11 C-8 (Restoring) 1940 CMP C11 F-15A (Parts) 1941 CMP C12 C-15A (Parts) 1942 CMP C13 F-60S Dumper (Restoring) 2 x 1941 CMP C12 F-GT (Storage) 194? CMP C13 C-60X (For Sale) |
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