Carrier woes

[Robert Bergeron]

Friends,

I want to adress a problem experiencd by a friend . I will not name him as he asked to remain anonymous . You see , It is a problem very personal in nature.

We are talking about a No 2 Mk 2* Canadian UC.

She is precious.

Anytime my friend applies the foot brake , the $%%$$%? ( damned ) ! emergency ( hand ) brake creeps backward a few inches and stays in the ''on'' position .

Once in a while he pushes on the button on the top and retracts the offending culprit.

A valid question would be to ask if this unfaithfullness to fully retracted position is normal is wearing out the brake liners or is it '' normal '' .

Is anyone else in the same position ( operating a UC ) experiencing the same problem ( situation ) ?

I know this is a rather stupid question but we really think my friend and i are the only ones in the world with this kind of problem...

In the pictures you will notice my friend's ''stick '' her.. my friend's emergency brake is painted red. That is because his vison is getting worse with age and he could'nt see it under the front armor. So he decided on painting it red. did.

Anyone one else besides Richard and i have this kind of ''personal'' problem with our sticks ?

Again, thank-you very much for your kind advice on this most delicate matter.

Tomorrow the Carrier goes out on parade for Remebrance Day. Pictures , same time , same channel .

'' They will never grow old.. we shall always remember them ''

Cheers.




Robert

[rob love]

Park brake creep is perfectly normal....the manual even mentions it. Painting the lever red is not normal. Never seen that before.

I have to wonder if a spring run from the lever to the front of the hull would do away with the problem.

[Robert Bergeron]

Got you Rob, thanks.

As for the colour red , my idea . I assume the entire responsability for that one . It is for a safety reason . I could not see it in the darkness under the armor when i most needed it, when climbing the incline of the tilt and load truck i use to ferry it around demonstrations.

It is not readily visible from the outside to the spectator so i don't mind so much. But when i am seated in the driver position it really stands out and i need it to.

Cheers.

[jeff davis]

Yes same problem with both of my Carriers .
Good idea about spring
Jeff

[The Bedford Boys]

I've experienced it on a UC here in NZ too.

[Michael R.]

Get the manual and do not be afraid to comply with the directions, in particular where words like 'imperative', 'must' and 'necessary' appear.

Once the linkages and rods are correctly set and balanced, the two brake rods (M and N in UC-F1 Steering page G-3) are adjusted to the point of requiring a pry bar to assemble the clevis pins. It is not uncommon on Canadian serviced carriers to find the far end clevis welded to those rods.

If you can insert those two clevis pins without the aid of a pry tool, and do not have correct clearance on the hand brake control bar, you can look forward to the hand brake control bar and hand brake lever causing creep when the foot brake is applied.

[Ben]

100% what Michael R says above.

Make the tools as shown in the manual and set your control rods to their correct lengths, once done, your brake won't creep. Guarantee it.

It's a fiddle to do and for best results you'll need to split the track. Invite a friend round to help, it'll take a couple of hours at least if you've never done it before.

Ben

[RichardT10829]

As per Ben and Michael... I use the adjusting tools (I swear by them) with some pre load on the foot brake links you don't get any creep on with the parking brake... It takes a fair bit of pre load tithe point of using a pry bar as described above.

Do as per the manual and take your time.

[Robert Bergeron]

Friends,

Thank-you very much for your sound and detailed advice.

I am not much of a Carrier mechanic but Richard is , so i guess i will have to hire one of you guys to help me out !

Now Richard and i have our answer and the correct procedure to correct our ''personal '' problem with our ''sticks'' .

Many thanks.

Robert