Bridge Class Sign

[Garry Shipton (RIP)]

Can anyone out there remind this old brain of mine what the black number was on the round yellow disc?Was it 3 or 5 for a Willys jeep!!

Where was I?Oh yes ,still in the basement den !!

[phoenix]

Well my ambulance wears a 3, so I doubt that it would have been a 5

That said, i'd have been surprised if it was as high as a 3 (I only know landies, not jeeps though)

[Jordan Baker]

Most were "5" even though a Jeep is only a class "3".

The lowest weight class of a bridge was "5". Therefore there was no real use of "3" on vehicles but some seem to have used it anyways.

[Bob Moseley (RIP)]

Hi All
Hopefully the following two scans will work.
Bob

[Bob Moseley (RIP)]

If you lot can't magnify these I'll try something else.

[Bob Moseley (RIP)]

Try this

[Garry Shipton (RIP)]

Thanks for the info.I was able to read the threads using my modeler magnifying glasses.My question to you is 1)Where's Class 9 ?On Canadian FAT's,the designation could be either Class 5 or Class 9 !!.My only reasoning is that Class 9 would be including the limber plus 25 pounder in tow,and Class 5 would only include the FAT plus crew and accoutrements.Your thread has no Class 9 ??
Signed
Perplexed

[Steve Guthrie]

Hi there

Now where in the world did THAT come from?

It's an article I wrote about 8 years ago for a military vehicle newsletter I produced called MILIFAX.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to see it, although it's a bit dated.

I did eventually find the complete list of vehicle bridging data.

Steve

[Garry Shipton (RIP)]

Hello to the home town of Bob Gainey!!Sorry that I never saw your article.But,I still ask the question!!What classifies Class 9 ??By the way Steve,besides Smith Falls,Peterborough has got to be one of the prettiest towns I've ever visited,especia;;y the old Victorian buildings on downtown main street.

[Keith Orpin]

Gary,
A Willys or Ford (or even Bantam) jeep would have had a bridge classification of 2.
Keith

[Tim Sullivan]

As has been said, Jeeps during WWII have generally had a bridge classification of "2" but of course like all things military, you'll also see them with a "3", as well jeeps towing a trailer would have a "3/2" bridge sign, and as Jordan pointed out, some jeeps even had a "5" (esp. some AB-modified jeeps). Why they classified as a "5" I haven't a clue why, as I doubt you could get a jeep to weigh that much and still move

Hope that helps,

Tim

[Bob Moseley (RIP)]

Hi Garry - Class 9 in the first entry on page 2.
Hi Steve - I found this trawling on the net a couple of years ago. The Bibliography is at the end of the article.
Bob

[Garry Shipton (RIP)]

Thanks to all input.This AM got a brainwave,guess it's a result of no beer .Looked into the Limber Gunners' Association on the web and VOILA!!There's the Chevy FAT I'm modeling and what is prominent in the face -on shot in the right headlight position ?? "Class 9.Then I got another brainwave,Hell two in one day !!Went to the the Western Command jeep thread and again Voila !!Class 5 on a jeep photo.Now gonna sit back and see if I can inspire another brainwave.Going for the Triple Crown !! :idea: But first going for a at the local pub to catch up on local shop talk.

[alleramilitaria]

HI
for some of you more confused people let me help you out.

the 3/5 bridging palte was used for the airborne jeeps attached to the airlanding bde and the airlanding division (lowland).

this was for the jeeps used to pull the 6lb gun.

also the 5/7 was used for the morris when pulling the 17 lb ATG.

i had to do lots of trips to the abn museum in holland to figure that one out.

[Garry Shipton (RIP)]

thanks al ot my fiend.Another item to add to my modeling list.
By the way "GO DLLAS STARS"Hope you're into hockey ??

[sapper740]

Originally posted by Garry Shipton
thanks al ot my fiend.Another item to add to my modeling list.
By the way "GO DLLAS STARS"Hope you're into hockey ??

Unfortunately, I'm reduced to rooting for the Stars as my beloved Canucks didn't make the playoffs this year

[alleramilitaria]

what playoffs is that?
there is no sport beyond NASCAR

[sapper740]

Originally posted by alleramilitaria
what playoffs is that?
there is no sport beyond NASCAR

Nascar is a sop for the Bud light swilling, trailer park dwelling Southern Cracker! I don't think the likes of Moss, Stewart, Nuvolari, Foyt, Lauda, et al would consider Nascar anything other than daily traffic in the Metroplex!

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by sapper740
I don't think think the likes of Moss, Stewart, Nuvolari, Foyt, Lauda, et al would consider Nascar anything other than daily traffic in the Metroplex!

Sapper..
Don't forget these Champ Car guys....
(Gotta get in a plug..my son in law is assistant engineer on Sedastien Bourdais car..Newman -Haas Team)

1 Sebastien Bourdais 35 35 0
2 Justin Wilson 27 27 0
3 Alex Tagliani 25 25 0
4 Mario Dominguez 23 23 0
5 Cristiano da Matta 21 21 0
6 Andrew Ranger 20 20 0
7 Jan Heylen (R) 18 18 0
8 Katherine Legge (R) 15 15 0
9 Will Power (R) 13 13 0
10 Antonio Pizzonia (R) 11 11 0
11 Dan Clarke (R) 10 10 0
12 Charles Zwolsman (R) 9 9 0
13 Nelson Philippe 8 8 0
14 Jimmy Vasser 7 7 0
15 Bruno Junqueira 6 6 0
16 A.J. Allmendinger 5 5 0
17 Paul Tracy 4 4 0
18 Oriol Servia

[alleramilitaria]

you just dont understand

hey sapper, jeep #2 is nearly up and running, and when i get the rest of the money i will have the morris back home

the bodywork is finished so now i have to paint it and get it running

[sapper740]

Originally posted by alleramilitaria
i will have the morris back home

the bodywork is finished so now i have to paint it and get it running

Great! I'm looking forward to seeing my first Morris in the flesh!

[alleramilitaria]

here is the pic

[sapper740]

Originally posted by alleramilitaria
here is the pic

Aye Lad, she's a peach! Looking forward to having a totally Commonwealth convoy one day soon.

[alleramilitaria]

we could do that now, 4 jeeps, 2 brens, a dingo, 2 T-16s, 2 15CWTs, a 6lb gun and some bikes (in texas)...... the problems are diffreng groups and too many vehicles and not enugh people.

[sapper740]

Originally posted by alleramilitaria
we could do that now, 4 jeeps, 2 brens, a dingo, 2 T-16s, 2 15CWTs, a 6lb gun and some bikes (in texas)...... the problems are diffreng groups and too many vehicles and not enugh people.

I didn't know there was another CMP in Texas. Who owns it and where does he live? Do you have a contact number for him?

[alleramilitaria]

ok now let me spell this out for all of you thick headed ones (sapper).canada did not make the first, only, last, or even best 15cwt truck. there are others chevy, ford, fordson, holden, morris, bedford, etc.....

[sapper740]

Originally posted by alleramilitaria
ok now let me spell this out for all of you thick headed ones (sapper).canada did not make the first, only, last, or even best 15cwt truck. there are others chevy, ford, fordson, holden, morris, bedford, etc.....

I see. And which of the examples you presented is known by the *nomenclature 15 cwt.?


*Nomenclature; a big word like marmalade meaning, " that by which something is designated."

[alleramilitaria]

1944 morris 15 CWT C-8 GS type 4X4 steel body 17 pdr ATG vehicle and GS transport truck