morris gutty

[mike mckinley]

hi all

i was reading last night a short write up on the morris gutty prototype for the austin champ. there isn't much info online on this vehicle, so i wonder if anyone has any info or pics of this vehicle?

cheers!!
mike

Originally posted by mike mckinley
hi all

i was reading last night a short write up on the morris gutty prototype for the austin champ. there isn't much info online on this vehicle, so i wonder if anyone has any info or pics of this vehicle?

cheers!!
mike

The Morris Gutty was a first attempt by Nuffield Mechanisations to make just 3 hand-built prototypes for a light field car to the War Office spec issued in September 1944.

All three vehicles were different to each other but using a monocoque body and a 1880cc flat four engine. The vehicles were trialled extensively at Chertsey and elsewhere but found to be far short of the spec requirement.

In 1948 they effectively started again under the Wolseley banner and now with the available and standardised RR B 40 Mk.2A engine. This was the Mudlark and the Champ can be seen to be the direct development of this vehicle.

So, whilst there is a lineage from the Gutty to Champ, the Gutty is not really the Champ forefather.

R.

[Les Freathy]

Mike, a couple of photos of the Gutty just as well it stayed in the prototype stage but a interesting attempt nevertheless
Cheers
Les

[Les Freathy]

second photo showing its worth

[mike mckinley]

thanks to both of you for the info and pics. i'm intrigued by some of these prototypes. for some time i have been doing a private study of the jeep and the concept vehicles created in that class world wide. i thought the dodge 3/4 ton had a lot of varients...little did i know how many 1/4 ton vehicles there actually were...and the study goes on
mike

[Les Freathy]

Mike i thought the following may be of interest to your studies first the Wolseley mudlark

[Les Freathy]

the utility version of the Champ, did not go into production

[Les Freathy]

and, oh dear prehaps they shot the designer of this abortion

[Les Freathy]

and oh dear again, think i will take my chances on land
cheers
Les

[Les Freathy]

These two photos will interest you Mike they were taken at one of the late John Carters MV rallies way back in the early 1970s. I canot remember if it was the genuine thing or a replica, if the latter it was a supurb job. I have never seen this utility version since any one in the UK have a idea as to its outcome
Les

[Les Freathy]

2nd

[mike mckinley]

Originally posted by Les Freathy
and, oh dear prehaps they shot the designer of this abortion

hi les

wow, some really great pictures...thank you for posting them. i have to ask, exactly what is that ugly little "abortion" of a vehicle...i'v never seen anything like it?

cheers!!
mike

[Les Freathy]

Hi Mike

i dont think any body has a clue for the reason of buliding the shoe box it certainly will not win points for aero dynamics
Les

[Les Freathy]

Hi Mike

Happy birthday for the othr day, a photos attatched i did not know i had its a shot of the restored Mudlark in its early days. Hope its of use
Les

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by Les Freathy
These two photos will interest you Mike they were taken at one of the late John Carters MV rallies way back in the early 1970s. I canot remember if it was the genuine thing or a replica, if the latter it was a supurb job. I have never seen this utility version since any one in the UK have a idea as to its outcome

Les,

There's one offered for sale on MilWeb, must be the same one?

Hanno

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