Mack NM

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

I have now posted a new photo showing its rear! Note it has an "L" prefix not an "H"...rebuild?

[Pete Ashby]

David

I think the truck may be a Mack NO or 'Super Mack' in which case the item on the front will be a Garwood 5 MB winch.

Produced 1943 to 1945 as prime movers for the 155mm

Pete

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

Pete, the official photo says it's a 7 1/2 ton Mack, S/M 6242. The back says it's " L 5559024" except THIS IS NOT LISTED! Demand S/M 6242 was for H 5589005 to 5589104 and 5837426 to 5837549, for ‘Tractors 6 x 6 Super Heavy’ . I assumed it was a NM because we have a photo of a crate with one in, NM "6x6 Prime Mover". However no Census Number just the US contracts W2425-QM-710 and W-670-ORD-3352.

[Les Freathy]

Hi David

Nice photo not seen that one before it is indeed a model NO2 6x6 heavy prime mover, looks like a fairly early model with the wooden body fitted. As Pete says a Garwood winch fitted on the front
cheers
Les

[cliff]

NO mack for sure.

Cheers
Cliff

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

May I ask if it is thought that this could be a rebuild, ex-USA, to 1 7.5 tonner given the L prefix? That brings me on to the NM crates...does anyone have Bart's Mack book please to advise which NM trucks were supplied to the UK under? The only one that I can find is S/M 2311 for Medium 6x6 Tractors.

[Richard Farrant]

Originally posted by David_Hayward
..does anyone have Bart's Mack book please to advise which NM trucks were supplied to the UK under? The only one that I can find is S/M 2311 for Medium 6x6 Tractors.

David,

According to the War Office Data Book, the NM5 6 ton 6x6, was supplied under Contract no. S.M.2311, it is described as Heavy Artillery Tractor ( or 6 ton load carrier).

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

S/M 2311 seems to be "it" then thanks! Which Mack engine did they have: does the book say, please?

Incidetnally I see from the pic in Dr Gregg' "EUROPE WW2" that the 6-tonner 6x6 was rebuilt without winch, but with longer body as a 10-tonner, and the photo on the page has "WVEE" indicating that it was trialled at Farnborough, and thus a WD vehicle.

[Richard Farrant]

Originally posted by David_Hayward
S/M 2311 seems to be "it" then thanks! What engine did the ey have does the book say? Mack obviously.

David,

I think you answered that question yourself

Mack EY petrol engine 707 cu.in. 11.6 litres 170 bhp

[cliff]

Originally posted by David_Hayward
...does anyone have Bart's Mack book please to advise which NM trucks were supplied to the UK under?

1940 Mack NR1 10 ton 6X4 cargo
contract # A-403 (BPC) S/M-TT2/1 90 on a cash & carry basis

1941 Mack NR2 & NR3 10 ton 6X4 cargo S/M2036

1941 Mack NR4 10 ton 6X4 transporter (Stuart tank) S/M2279

1941 Mack NR5 10 ton 6X4 cargo S/M2075

1941 Mack NR6 10 ton 6X4 cargo S/M2150

1942 Mack NR7 10 ton 6X4 cargo S/M2307
- Known British WD #s L4907091 - 340 & 5472753 - 3072

1942 Mack NR8 10 ton 6X4 Cargo S/M2150 & S/M2307

1943 Mack NR9 - NR13 10 ton 6X4 cargo
- S/M2432 for Mack NR10 & NR11 this also covered 525 White 1064s

1944 Mack NR14 & NR15 10 ton 6X4 cargo S/M3150

hope that helps David

Cheers
Cliff

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

Thanks Cliff. I have a load more not in the "book". I picked up some French contract orders from the British WD papers I obtained a few yars ago.

[cliff]

1942-44 Mack MN5 & MN6 6 ton 6X6 cargo S/M2311

NM7 & NM8 were supplied under lendlease to Australian, Canadian & South African Forces as well as Britain but no S/M # is given

Cheers
Cliff

[Richard Farrant]

Originally posted by David_Hayward
Pete, the official photo says it's a 7 1/2 ton Mack, S/M 6242. The back says it's " L 5559024" except THIS IS NOT LISTED!

David,

The War Office book shows this contract, SM6242 as a NO6 . Also, looking up the census number, 5559024 in Chilwell list is interesting;

H5558376 - H5559875 ex-USA Ford & Willys Car 5cwt 4x4

Now, jeeps were never in the H class, I wonder if this is a group of vehicles handed over by the USA, which could included jeeps.

The Mack could well have been designated L, because its use was not intended to be as a tractor (ie H). They were designed to tow the US 155mm gun.

[cliff]

Barts book does not list any S/M #s for the NO but they were supplied as Defence aid to several countries in 1943 & 1944.

A photo shows a NO6 ready for British Service with a note about the single headlight been located further forward then normal.

Cheers
Cliff

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

With the benefit of the Record Card: Model Mack NM5, 19-12-41
H 5215518-5216041; 5476128-5477050; H 5813958-5814636; H 6228812-6229067. Tractors Medium . It also states that trailers were being atached to two tractors H5476167 & 169 Conversion ?? Reynolds S.6343.

On tghe back it lists allocations ...it looks as though by 21st June 1945 some had been converted to 5/6-tonners.

The card quotes chassis #s NM8D 1301-2260. Looks as though they were shipped September 1943-March 1944 to "Crating", "Elbow", India" etc.

Census Numbers L 6287521-525 were "Lorry 6-ton 6 x 6".

I can understand that the NO was converted from a tractor at some stage to a 7 1/2 tonner as well.