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Old 07-01-11, 00:08
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These are from the same book and should fit in this thread. Those Carden Loyd carriers sure underwent major changes! How many would the Germans have captured anyway? To make 3000 of these halftracks they must have started reproducing the track assemblies somewhere along the line.
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1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
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Old 07-01-11, 02:39
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Hi David

Can you send me a high res version of these latest pictures.... particularly the staff car version so I can study them by enlarging the details.

Will send you my email by PM

Thanks
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Old 09-01-11, 00:59
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Bob, I emailed you the page.
Here's the review of the CMP Umbau model translated to English (sort of anyway)
CMP Umbau model

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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set
1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2
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Old 11-01-11, 02:07
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Hi David

Man that translation is really sketchy..... but every little bit helps.... I have collected every picture from MLU......

I do consider doing a full size replica of a captured vehicle..... should be fairly straight forward..... historical accuracy should not be an issue as so many details are left to the imagination and what was available at the time.

I have a few Cab 11/12 to draw parts from but it will have to be a Chev.... and possibly with an auto tranny for easier driving..... some Chev 6 combination....stricly a fun machine.

Thanks for your help......
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Old 11-01-11, 02:36
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Bob.
One of these would make a cool toy all right! I'm thinking of building one from a Cab 11 F15A. I don't know what their coach work would have been like but it looks like you could use square tubing the same size as the CMP door thickness for framework and spot weld sheet metal to it. Screw the inside panels on so you have access to the door handle mechanisms.
Notice on that model they have the endgate hinged from the top but in this side view it folds down to use as a table (just like a 'real' endgate.) Also notice on this pic that the bottom of the added on rear cab doesn't line up with the bottom of the CMP cab. You might figure out why when you delve a little deeper in the project. Also notice that some have CMP headlights while others have the German ones; some have the push bar while others don't and some use CMP bumpers while others have a mount that lowers the bumper and use a different bumper.
I really think that most of the details are covered in the posted pics. The pic with the 2 Umbaus is from another forum and hasn't been posted here before. On that side view pic I removed the overwriting plus the radio and rifles just for clarity's sake. Gotta love Photoshop!

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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set
1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2

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Old 11-01-11, 02:49
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Default Nice pictures.....

I agree with you David that the body panels would be easy enough to replicate. From past experience on home made dune buggy bodies a solid frame work with spot welded panels would be easy...but spray on some insulation foam inside the body work ...otherwise the sheet metal becomes like the skin on a drum and booms like crazy...... Heck they never even bothered removing the back panel to the cab.... just built right on to it.

Love the Hummer like back section with the spare on top and the drop down picnic table.......

I would use after market flat lens repro lamps for the headlights and repro Notek lamps are available from the Kubel replicar dealers in the states.... two old German rifles in the holders and you are ready for a cruise.

The canvas top should be easy to replicate as well although driving open would be more fun..... already have a full nos set of 900x16 Michelin square block pattern.....

I would like to keep the 4X4 set up if I can fit a short auto tranny....some models for vans have a very short tailshaft tube..... would favor the Chev 6 for ease of installation in the tight engine compartment.

All you need is the imagination......

........ and with imagination you never grow old.......

Bob
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Old 04-04-18, 21:59
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Default CMP Umbau-Wagen

Picked this up the other day, which is the first shot I've seen of the rear end.

P.S. My first attempt at posting a picture, so fingers crossed.

Owen.

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