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Old 21-06-09, 06:59
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Here's a couple of pix I came up with off a Polish site.

kettenfahrzeugiCMPDer24PzDivision_Baydeww2.jpg cmpWL_Afrikakorps_Baydeww2.jpg
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set
1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2
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Old 06-01-11, 17:52
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I downloaded a book titled German Trucks and Cars in WW2 - Ford at War and came across this page.

Ford_at_War_-_LKW.jpg
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set
1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2
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Old 07-01-11, 01:08
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These are from the same book and should fit in this thread. Those Carden Loyd carriers sure underwent major changes! How many would the Germans have captured anyway? To make 3000 of these halftracks they must have started reproducing the track assemblies somewhere along the line.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set
1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2
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Old 07-01-11, 03:39
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Hi David

Can you send me a high res version of these latest pictures.... particularly the staff car version so I can study them by enlarging the details.

Will send you my email by PM

Thanks
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Old 09-01-11, 01:59
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Bob, I emailed you the page.
Here's the review of the CMP Umbau model translated to English (sort of anyway)
CMP Umbau model

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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set
1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2
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Old 11-01-11, 03:07
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Hi David

Man that translation is really sketchy..... but every little bit helps.... I have collected every picture from MLU......

I do consider doing a full size replica of a captured vehicle..... should be fairly straight forward..... historical accuracy should not be an issue as so many details are left to the imagination and what was available at the time.

I have a few Cab 11/12 to draw parts from but it will have to be a Chev.... and possibly with an auto tranny for easier driving..... some Chev 6 combination....stricly a fun machine.

Thanks for your help......
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Old 11-01-11, 03:36
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Bob.
One of these would make a cool toy all right! I'm thinking of building one from a Cab 11 F15A. I don't know what their coach work would have been like but it looks like you could use square tubing the same size as the CMP door thickness for framework and spot weld sheet metal to it. Screw the inside panels on so you have access to the door handle mechanisms.
Notice on that model they have the endgate hinged from the top but in this side view it folds down to use as a table (just like a 'real' endgate.) Also notice on this pic that the bottom of the added on rear cab doesn't line up with the bottom of the CMP cab. You might figure out why when you delve a little deeper in the project. Also notice that some have CMP headlights while others have the German ones; some have the push bar while others don't and some use CMP bumpers while others have a mount that lowers the bumper and use a different bumper.
I really think that most of the details are covered in the posted pics. The pic with the 2 Umbaus is from another forum and hasn't been posted here before. On that side view pic I removed the overwriting plus the radio and rifles just for clarity's sake. Gotta love Photoshop!

beute.jpg beuteumbauwagenmitfunkpic10sq.jpg

cmpkfz15-2.jpg
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set
1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2

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