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Old 10-03-12, 12:06
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Felt shouldn't be out of place, my but holders are tin rectangles with 10mm of felt riveted all round and in the bottom to cover the bolt heads.
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Old 10-03-12, 12:20
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Were those metal boxes a Chevrolet item, or was it 'luck of the draw' which trucks got them?
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Old 10-03-12, 12:50
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as far as I know it is an after a certin date thing as I have seen pictures of Chevs built before mine with the wooden but holders.
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Old 10-03-12, 19:32
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Default Rifle Cups from my Pat 13

Hi

Here are some photos of the rifle clips on my 1942 Pattern 13 C60S.

As mentioned the cup is sloped to be deeper at the back. I've got dimensions if anybody wants me to post them.

Now a question, what do you do for units using the No5 Mark I (jungle carbine)?

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Old 10-03-12, 22:59
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Hi

Here are some photos of the rifle clips on my 1942 Pattern 13 C60S.

As mentioned the cup is sloped to be deeper at the back. I've got dimensions if anybody wants me to post them.

Now a question, what do you do for units using the No5 Mark I (jungle carbine)?

Cheers Phil
Thanks Phil
Yes, I would be interested to see at least some of the dimensions from your blocks. Bob recently sourced a NOS butt block that was smaller than the dimensions published in Convoy Magazine several years back and some old and weathered blocks are yet other sizes. (Bob's NOS didn't have a drain hole but Convoy dimensions one and some of the weatherd blocks have one.)
I don't know if this is a case of different contractors working to different dimensions or different designs for different uses or just sloppy manufacturing but you would think that at least the inside length and width of the block should have been standardized along with the spacing for the mounting bolts. The mounting spacing does seem standard but other aspects vary.
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Old 11-03-12, 00:39
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Default Jungle Carbine

Phil,

The issue with L.E No. 5 is an interesting question. I have a Jungle Carbine here & while i've not yet tried this on the rifle clips, I would expect it to be too short for the clip to grab. Also the butt plate with strap loop might be too wide for a regular floor block. On the other hand..........at least it has its own 'padding' on the butt

I'll test this fit later today & let you all know.

And YES, I would also like to see the dimensions you have there.
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Old 11-03-12, 00:47
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The Australian designed gun tractors No8 and No9 have provision to fit a bren gun up in the roof and a smaller machine gun on the driver's mate's wheel arch. Here's how the box for the butt was fitted. You'll also notice the 'glovebox' for ammunition. This pic is on the AWM's FGT No9.



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Phil,

The issue with L.E No. 5 is an interesting question. I have a Jungle Carbine here & while i've not yet tried this on the rifle clips, I would expect it to be too short for the clip to grab. Also the butt plate with strap loop might be too wide for a regular floor block. On the other hand..........at least it has its own 'padding' on the butt

I'll test this fit later today & let you all know.

And YES, I would also like to see the dimensions you have there.
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Old 10-03-12, 21:30
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Were those metal boxes a Chevrolet item, or was it 'luck of the draw' which trucks got them?
Both Chev and Fords built in Australia used the steel ones, not sure when this started, or whether it applies to all Australian assembled vehicles.

They have a high tendency to rust because the felt conveniently holds water against the steel.
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