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Old 07-07-13, 11:03
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Default French Flathead Block - fitting of original parts #1

Last week, with the new block expected this weekend, I had sent the heads for machining. Got em back on Friday. One was already straight, the other needed attention. Now both are spot-on!
Heads machined.jpg
Went to get the block Saturday. Another 450km round trip, but WELL WORTH IT! First thing to do this morning was to remove the preservative layer. I will give it a second, and possibly third, go in the future. Some of the original metal debris from machining was evident, trapped in time beneath the cosmoline (or whatever the French had used). Mmmmmm, clean!!!
Clean bores 1.jpg
Did a test fitment of a number of external parts, with interesting results.
The intake manifold was a 100% perfect fit, as was the distributor backing plate (in later photo).
Intake test fit 2.jpg
Oil pump idler and cam gear cover plate was too.
Cam gear & oil pump idler housing.jpg
The heads are a perfect fit as well, BUT I will need to locate a longer stud bolt for the top centre of each head. I was aware of this need before I bought it, so it's not a shock, or a problem.
Head test fit 1.jpg

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Old 07-07-13, 11:30
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Default French Flathead Block - fitting of original parts #2

Here's what I mean about the longer head stud needed. It goes in here. The threaded part is lower in the block. Between the machined surface and the thread, there is a water jacket passage. This must be one of the refinements to improve water flow. Without any krud in the block, it's easy to see (and feel with finger) how much space is allocated for water transfer and cooling.
Home of the longer head stud.jpg Home of the longer head stud 2.jpg
The water pumps do fit, but will require an additional hole in the block to be eliminated. The hole is a cooling hole that must work with the 8BA pumps. I'll tap it and insert a threaded plug. The distributor plate is perfect fit. In my photo it looks like it's held on with the washers around pump bolts, but it's not. I just needed to take up some of the thread length of the old water pump bolts, because they were crappy thread further up near the head. I have a new full set of external hardware bolts. Don't want to open the packets this early though!
Water pumps & distributor cover test fit 1.jpg
It took me over an hour to insert all of the new head studs (less 2 still needed). I'm glad I bought these. They are all either new, or NOS. The nuts are from MacsAuto.
Head studs & nuts.jpg
This is where the govenor goes. Never seen one. Tempted to just make block-off plates for the openings not needed, but if I can actually get the original piece of machinery, that would be better. I assume one of the holes is for oil pressure sender, and two others are for oil in/out to filter???
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Old 07-07-13, 11:47
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Default Engine

Such a work of art it almost seems a shame to spoil it by putting it together!
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Old 07-07-13, 11:48
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Default Nearly forgot

Topped off the day by finishing the exhaust manifolds.
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They are now ready to install, but I won't yet. Am planning to make a metal piece off one side manifold bolts, so I can pivot the engine on it's stand. Not the trolley I currently move it around on, one yet to be bought. Many things are yet to be bought but I won't have the $$$ for much now, until I get tax done. Even then I may need to sell a kidney. Fairly low mileage one, in case anyone's interested.
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Old 07-07-13, 11:55
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Default Work of Art

Yeah, I know what you mean, Keith!

This engine will be more French than Canadian, when it's finished.
Hope it doesn't surrender at the first hill.
Still need the following parts:

French crank chaft.
French piston pins (different size to the ones I had bought several weeks ago )
French con rod bearings.
New cam shaft. Any country!

I ordered a new set of lifters last week. They are non-adjustable type. Can't go out of adjustment if there aint any!!!
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Old 21-07-13, 12:15
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Default Front Axle/Steering finished

At long last, the front end is finished (or very, very nearly). I have to order another brake cylinder bolt from Macs, THEN it's finished. Well, the wheel nuts were painted this morning, so they are only finger tight. Once torqued up, THEN it's finished. Oh, hold a minute, I have brushed one coat of paint on the bolts, so they will need another 2 before they're right, so..............THEN it's......well you get the idea!
Front axle reassembled 1.jpg Driver side steering knuckle 1.jpg Front diff & brake line.jpg

Finally got the NOS lifters.
NOS lifter set 2.jpg

Can someone please tell me which of these emergency brake brackets is correct for Ford CMP? Neither came with the vehicle, both acquired since, so I have no idea which one to clean up.
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Old 21-07-13, 13:02
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Tony the bottom one is for the brake on the transfer case according to my MB-F1.
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Old 21-07-13, 13:08
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Thanks Robert.
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