Shell casing ID

[Richard Coutts-Smith]

Working on a Champ at the moment that has the coolest steering wheel. Can anyone ID what the shell casing was originally. I'm afraid it's all gobbeldygook to me.
Rich.

[Philliphastings]

It appears to be 2 Pounder Richard

Looks good whatever it was

Cheers

Phill

[Mike Cecil]

Richard,

Diameter, please. Looks like 18 pdr from the faint markings, but the diameter looks too small.

Markings appear to be quite elderly: much older than your 'Chump'

Mike C

[Richard Coutts-Smith]

Mike and Phil, thanks for your thoughts on this subject.
It will be a couple of weeks before I am back to this Champ (Mike you need to check your spelling, Chump indeed!)
Not sure that a diameter would be much help as it may well have been machined to fit, or at least to help the bog hold it in place.
I have a pic from another angle, but probably does not add much.
Rich.

[Tony Smith]

It's Italian made in 1939 for their 47mm Gun (MORE INFO), so probably a good chance it came back from North Africa.

This was a dual-role gun that was both an Infantry Gun and an Anti Tank gun. In Italian, "Anti-Tank Ammunition" is Munitzioni Anticarro. Perhaps that is the meaning of the MA (or AM?) cipher, or perhaps it is a specific munitions factory?

[Mike Cecil]

Tony,

Excellent! Thanks for that.

The 47/32 was encountered and used by Australians in the Middle East, and I think there is a captured example of the ugly little brute in the AWM's National Collection. It was on display in ANZAC Hall, adjacent to the CMP caravan, a few years ago but I think it is now back in storage at Mitchell.

The AWM image collection contains several images, eg 044455, 020088, 041998, 041999, P03799.017 which may be of interest to Richard.

Mike C

[drcowie]

These pics show the AP round (base fuse) adjacent to 2Pr A/A (Pom Pom) in my collection.

[Richard Coutts-Smith]

Well, now we know what the rest looked like. Looks kinda bare without a steering wheel wrapped around it.
Thanks Des
Rich.