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Armoured Carrier, Wheeled - Indian Pattern
Hi Gents,
I'm looking into the India Pattern Armoured Carriers (ACV-IP) used by the Indian & Commonwealth Forces. As I understand it, CMP chassis were sent to India, where they were fitted with armoured bodies in Indian workshops. The Mk II and IIa are fairly well documented and these were basically a turretless armoured car - rather like a large Dingo, with Bren and Boys armament and a crew of three - mainly used as a Light Recce or Liaison Car, as well as an OP vehicle. However, the Mk I seems to be very difficult to track down. From Indian cavalry organisations, it was clearly used as a light APC in lieu of the Universal Carrier in Recce Regiments. George Forty claims it was based on the experimental Guy Wheeled Carrier. He also states that the appearance varied depending on which workshop did the modifications. I have a photo of the Guy Wheeled Carrier, but I can't find any photos or plans of the Mk I IP Carrier. Are the above comments correct? Was it basically a wheeled Universal-type troop/weapon carrier? Can anyone help? Mark |
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Carrier, Wheeled, 4x4 (Indian Pattern)
Mark,
The India Pattern Armoured Carriers are often referred to as "Carrier, Wheeled, 4x4 (Indian Pattern)" or "Armoured Carrier, Wheeled, Indian Pattern". Best source of info I know is Wheels & Tracks issue no.41; also check the following threads on the Old Forum:Hope this helps, Hanno |
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Thanks Hanno
Great pictures, Hanno! The Mk IV Carrier (the Afghan one) is interesting - it looks a lot like the original Guy Carrier.
Mark |
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Re: Thanks Hanno
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Here's a three-quarter rear view of the Guy Wheeled Carrier: http://ww2photo.mimerswell.com/tanks/gb/bil/guy/wc.htm The Indian Pattern Wheeled Carrier is discussed in the thread "Revised 1942 S/M Contracts Listing" as well. Cheers, Hanno |
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Indian l.r.d.g. Unit 1943
See some interestings film stills of Indian Pattern Armoured Wheelded Carriers in the thread "LRGD indian units (4 pics) strange vehicle help !" at the Allied WWII AFV Discussion Group.
http://imagen.britishpathe.com/scrip...00000134&sif=0 The stills come from film 1815.15 "INDIAN L.R.D.G. UNIT 1943" at the British Pathé site. Regards, Hanno |
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Re: Carrier, Wheeled, 4x4 (Indian Pattern)
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I came across this picture in the Dutch Army photo archive....no idea if it has been posted on the forum before, but better safe than sorry.
source: http://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/nl...d/pantserwagen Dutch East Indies 1947. Alex
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It did ring a bell so I had a search for it. Found it in the thread armoured vehicle query, which has more pictures of these types of carrier in the NEI. Hanno
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Wheeled Armoured Carrier assembly line: "fit floor plate and floors" station (IWM IND 517)
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Wheeled Armoured Carrier in the Netherlands East Indies
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There are two Wheeled Carriers, both of which have the typical Indian Army census numbers of which the /|\ has been supplanted by a Dutch flag. They are following a Universal Carrier and what may be a Humfox leading the column. Quote:
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Wheeled Armoured Carrier in India, 1946
"1946 India - Soldiers & Daimler Dingo (sic) with Wire cage roof #1"
393060134180.jpg Source: https://www.ebay.com/itm/393060134180 "1946 India - Soldiers & Daimler Dingo (sic) with Wire cage roof #2" 393060127604.jpg Source: https://www.ebay.com/itm/393060127604
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Indian Pattern Carrier
My Father has owned this British booklet Our Men in Korea since 1955 and because of all the CMPs, this photograph has always been my favourite.
Royal New Zealand Artillery Advance to New Positions Near the Front Line. copy.jpg |
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LPOPs
Those Indian Pattern Wheeled Carriers from Korea are New Zealand LPOPs (not entirely sure what that stands for). Very similar to the wartime Indian ones but just slightly different. Driver hatch is nearer the centre of the vehicle for one.
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And one more in use with the Netherlands East Indies Army:
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Here i found related pics kindly check http://www.scoopoftidbits.com/travel...y-tank-museum/ Different links of same museum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cvAqyHp5eo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnz-E02TSx8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pKhG24Qv2M Last edited by Davistine Liddle; 09-09-18 at 21:17. |
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8A5D94E7-4218-4C12-B03D-C2273FFE63B9.jpeg Two more documents (via William Spence): 17CC0BDB-AE36-4BFB-B17B-72940E69C8C4.jpeg 05C6D133-1160-4441-921D-259DAAB3BF98.jpeg
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C291QR chassis used on Mark IV
Cross posting from Another Indian Pattern odd job: "C291QH 4x4 FAT for Royal Engineers" with three updated photos:
The Armoured Carrier, Wheeled, Indian Pattern Mk IV was based on the following chassis: C291QR: rearranged driver’s position with centrally mounted near-vertical driver’s position Legend: C - Canadian design; 2 – 1942 model year 9 - 95-bhp engine 1 - wheelbase (101"); Q - four-wheel drive; R - rear mounted engine. 138244639_10216177356020993_9104192035453410248_o.jpg 138610223_10216177353900940_8405141919765963550_o.jpg 138346272_10216177351420878_739722639827240169_o.jpg ND-127.jpg ND-128.jpg
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