What do we see here? 3-ton trucks with GS body moved forward

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Please ID the trucks in this photo. (The one on the right is easy.)

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Picture courtesy of Brendan O’Carroll

[David Dunlop]

Interesting, Hanno, that the CMP in the foreground is running sand tires while still retaining its factory original chevron tread spare.

David

[Tony Smith]

I see 4 CMP F30s, with stripped down 11/12 Cabs for cooling.

I would say LRDG Patrol trucks, but I haven't seen the spare tyre mounted to the side like that before.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

F30s? Or are these are 158” w.b. 3-ton trucks with roofless Cab 13 and the GS body moved forward with the spare wheel fitted to the side of the body?

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[Alex van de Wetering]

I would say LWB F60L's, but I am with Tony that I are most likely cab 12's...but I am not putting any money on it, as there is something strange about the trucks.

Cab 13's have the front part of the fenders fitted to the front clip....so, if the clips are removed, than you can't fit the front part of the fender. But the picture does show full fenders. Or do the trucks in the picture retain the cab13 front clips, and were the sides cut out of them???

What about the GS bodies? Is that a drop shadow under the top edge of the body......or did someone cut holes in the sides? I think Hanno's is right that the bodies have been move forward, but I understand the design of the long wheelwells allowed the bodies to either be fitted with, or without, the spare wheel carrier.

It's certainly a fascinating picture, Hanno!

[Tony Smith]

I don't like having to refer to scale models to depict a vehicle, but they do show the vehicle well: F30. Note that the model has 2 toolboxes under the front of the tray, the photo trucks only have 1 toolbox and a POL rack, making the rear wheel arch appear longer.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

I think I see the side of the 3-ton GS body with the four sections and the wheel well cover covering the third and part of the fourth section. Compare with these pics:

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[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

I think I see the side of the 3-ton GS body with the four sections and the wheel well cover covering the third and part of the fourth section. Compare with these pics:

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Or do you see the Sand Channel moved rearward to make space to mount the spare wheel?

And when are you going to tell us the source of the photo?

[Hanno Spoelstra]

A sand channel can be fitted, yes. Don’t you see the four side sections? I will view it again on a large screen. There’s definitely something modified.

Pic comes from Brendan O’Carroll, have asked him if he has a better scan.

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[Alex van de Wetering]

I think I see the side of the 3-ton GS body with the four sections and the wheel well cover covering the third and part of the fourth section. Compare with these pics:

I agree.....and a sand channel fitted onto the outside of the wheel well. I think I also see 20inch wheels, so I am still going for an F60L.

[rob love]

I played with the contrast and color a bit and agree they are 20" wheels. The dish of the wheels are the giveaway. As well, if you look at the diameter of the spare compared to the 3 ton cargo box, the tires are much higher than a 16" tire would be.

Hard to understand why they would go to all the trouble to remove the spare tire carrier and move the box forward. The weight saving is negligible.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Two photos of a Cab 13 3-tonner with its GS body moved forward.
Notice the spare wheel holder dangling from the left hand side of the GS body.

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[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Two photos of a Cab 13 3-tonner with its GS body moved forward.
Notice the spare wheel holder dangling from the left hand side of the GS body.

More photos of this 3-tonner. Note the spare wheel holder is being moved around every now and then.

Fliegel Jezerniczky
Any idea when the photo was taken ? When I last saw it in 2010, it was half-covered in sand, and as far as I know the area has been closed since 2012 (both to foreigners and locals).
No info on the unit, though most likely a SDF convoy truck (though it is a bit further north than the regular route).
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Alan Hall, 2010:
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Toby Savage, April 2012:
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[martin bendsoe]

Dear all,

Interesting enough one can find pictures of LRDG Ford F30 (I think also here on MLU), where the body has been moved BACK (for better weight distribution over the rear wheels?) allowing for a spare wheel behind he cab.

Cheers, Martin

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by martin bendsoe

Interesting enough one can find pictures of LRDG Ford F30 (I think also here on MLU), where the body has been moved BACK (for better weight distribution over the rear wheels?) allowing for a spare wheel behind he cab.

Hi Martin,

Indeed, the LRDG modified (some of) their F30s. The body was moved back to improve the weight distribution for driving in the desert.

Re. these 3-ton trucks, I am pretty sure the LRDG Heavy Section did not alter the body, but that these trucks were delivered as such.