CMP trucks used by US Forces

[Al Nickolson]

I found this photo at;

http://picasaweb.google.com/Randyand...canCoOpOrgSACO

Japanese occupied China, 1945, NGC, Sino-American Co-op Org (SACO)

Regards, Al

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[Ryan]

Hi Al, your link doesn't work for me. Anybody else having the same trouble?
Intriguing photo though.

[Al Nickolson]

Try

http://picasaweb.google.com/RandyandBelleSmith

Japanese occupied China, 1945, NGC, Sino-American

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Thanks Al, excellent find!

[Ryan]

Yes, that worked Al. Fasinating pictures.

[Colin Macgregor Stevens]

Very neat photo!

The US Army used Canadian Army trucks, Universal Carriers etc. in the Phillipines in 1941 after they were diverted from going to Hong Kong. All were eventually lost to the Japanese I believe.

[Brian Gough]

Currently on eBay there are 2 interesting photos of US Army Air Force CMP Fords, identified as "Rover Truck", both from the same seller.

1. Rover Truck - USAAF - Tunisia - Original Photo
Item number: 270343983267
http://cgi.ebay.com/ROVER-TRUCK-USAA...ayphotohosting

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2. AAF Mobile Canteen Truck - Tunisia - Original Photo
Item number: 270343992900
http://cgi.ebay.com/AAF-MOBILE-CANTE...1%7C240%3A1318

I have no connection with the seller.

Brian

[cletrac (RIP)]

That's interesting as I didn't realize that the US used any CMPs. The one that's stuck is a 2 wheel drive Ford F15 with ID829720 stenciled on the front bumper. It has the 2B1 box which would make it a 1942 model.
The canteen truck is an F60 serving under the Delta Service Command, whatever that is. It doesn't have a roof hatch which is a little bit unusual for the time period but then a canteen truck at an air force base might not need it's own aircraft protection.
You can tell they're both Fords by the push bar setup. On the F15A you can also see the Ford horn and the shape of the grille emblem.

Why won't it let me post the pictures?
I was using my Firefox browser and it wouldn't show the Manage Attachments button so I tried my Netscape 9 browser and there it was. That's hard to figure!

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[gordon]

In the US Government scheme of things, Service Commands were organisations that took over military / admin duties in an area when the units that were based there were posted overseas, things like recruitment and family admin and so on.

I ran across them as so many of the old interesting Dodges left in the USA were oddbal military types or civilian used by the military, in Service Command setups. Both my WC36 trucks were 8th Service Command based in Fort Sam Houston, Texas.

They covered the whole of the US and Alaska, I wasn't aware they existed outside the continental US but it might make sense if this was the admin organisation for, say, the Nile Delta area or whatever was the Tunisian equivalent?

[Hanno Spoelstra]

While looking for something else, I ran across this picture captioned:

"A Ford truck is parked next to a wrecked USAAF truck, North Africa (probably), 1942-43"
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Source: http://ww2online.org/image/ford-truc...obably-1942-43


Plus the ones above from the same source:

"United States Army Air Forces Chevrolet truck, with enclosed cab and door with a pick up-sized box for cargo, which is stuck in the sand. Servicemen are standing near the rear of the truck. North Africa (probably). 1942-43"
2009.278.425_1.jpg
Source: http://www.ww2online.org/image/unite...obably-1942-43


"Box body-type truck, probably a Chevrolet, with words on it that read "U. S. Army Air Force Mobile Canteen Service, Post Exchange Service, Delta Service Command." A serviceman is standing near the passenger door. North Africa (probably). 1942-43"
2009.278.426_1.jpg
Source: http://www.ww2online.org/image/us-ar...obably-1942-43

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Two pictures of the same Ford F8 8-cwt:

"Serviceman and a United States Army Air Forces Chevrolet truck with enclosed cab and door with a pick up-sized, covered box for cargo. See also 2009.278.446. North Africa (probably). 1942-43"
2009.278.445_1.jpg
Source: http://www.ww2online.org/image/servi...obably-1942-43

"Close up view of a United States Army Air Forces Chevrolet truck with enclosed cab and door with a pick up-sized, covered box for cargo. "War scenes. Checked 6/28/00 L. Air." See also 2009.278.445. North Africa (probably). 1942-43"
2009.278.446_1.jpg
Source: http://www.ww2online.org/image/chevr...-probably-1942

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

While looking for something else, I ran across this picture captioned:
"A Ford truck is parked next to a wrecked USAAF truck, North Africa (probably), 1942-43"
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Source: http://ww2online.org/image/ford-truc...obably-1942-43

Ford F15 CMP 15-cwt truck with mine damage next to an Indian Pattern Ford MCP 3-ton truck, somewhere in the North African desert.
The F15 was in service with the USAAF, note the USA recognition star on the roof. The Ford MCP has a British roundel on the top and the front of the hood.

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[Keith Webb]

Just came across this interesting image on Facebook of a USN registered C15A in India. Looks like a local wooden body too.
Caption identifies the person in front of the truck: PHM1c Don Kerns

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[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Keith Webb

Just came across this interesting image on Facebook of a USN registered C15A in India. Looks like a local wooden body too.
Caption identifies the person in front of the truck: PHM1c Don Kerns

Keith,

I merged it with an earlier thread featuring the same truck. Glad to see this subject brought back to our attention: an wooden-bodied CMP in US Navy service in China - how rare can it get?!?

Caption according to link in first posting reads: "Smith in F15 Polsten Lorry and PHM1c Don Kerns in front of US Navy Hospital, X-Ray unit on sign".

[Keith Webb]

Thanks for doing this Hanno!
Must be a function of age, repeating things! As you can see the original caption mis-identifies the vehicle model.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Keith Webb

Thanks for doing this Hanno!
Must be a function of age, repeating things! As you can see the original caption mis-identifies the vehicle model.

Not sure if you had seen it before, but somehow I recalled seeing that C15A with US Navy markings on MLU (yes, I should get a life ).

It opens a whole new - to me - chapter on WW2; I have just read a little more about the Sino-American Cooperative Organization on Wikipedia. Pictures I have found till now show US-built vehicles only, so how they came about a CMP will probably remain a mystery.

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Al Nickolson

I found this photo at;

http://picasaweb.google.com/Randyand...canCoOpOrgSACO

Japanese occupied China, 1945, NGC, Sino-American Co-op Org (SACO)

Regards, Al

The cab pictured is a Canadian built cab, but while perusing the AWM registers, I found notes referring to at least 2 Australian built C15A trucks transferred to the US Navy.

It seems they got them from a variety of sources!

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[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Tony Smith

The cab pictured is a Canadian built cab, but while perusing the AWM registers, I found notes referring to at least 2 Australian built C15A trucks transferred to the US Navy.

It seems they got them from a variety of sources!

Indeed, the one pictured in "Japanese occupied China, 1945, NGC, Sino-American Co-op Org (SACO)" is a Canadian-built chassis/cab, fitted with a body in India.

The ones you are referring were Australian built and supplied to the US Navy in Australia. Great find, BTW!

Guess they were sourcing (even scrounging) their vehicles locally, wherever they sailed and needed vehicles to do their business?