chev blitz tipper

colin morley · #1 16-06-09, 02:25

I have just bought a 1945 Blitz tipper with an original tray. The tray has a wooden floor with steel over. Was this standard? Also are the gear boxes and transfer boxes the same as the ford? I will post some photos later on. regards Colin

Tony Smith · #2 16-06-09, 02:56

The gearbox is the same as other Chevs, the 2 speed transfer case is internally the same as Fords and a Ford case will mount in a Chev, but not the other way around.

Grant Bowker · #3 16-06-09, 03:06

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Originally Posted by colin morley

I have just bought a 1945 Blitz tipper with an original tray. The tray has a wooden floor with steel over. Was this standard? regards Colin

I'm don't think there were any Canadian tippers (dump bodies) with wood floors , the Australian models could be different, I just don't have data one way or the other. All of the Canadian bodies are described as "all steel", including the low production modified GS body used at bases in Canada (only 14 made).

Keith Webb · #4 16-06-09, 05:16

The most common tipper (WO97 I think) was all steel. The earlier one I'm not sure but could have had a steel covered wooden base.

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Originally Posted by colin morley

I have just bought a 1945 Blitz tipper with an original tray. The tray has a wooden floor with steel over. Was this standard? Also are the gear boxes and transfer boxes the same as the ford? I will post some photos later on. regards Colin

cliff · #5 16-06-09, 06:36

I'd have to see a photo to see which type of tipper body you have for sure but I have one photo where I can see that the back tail gate has a steel covering on the interior but the wooden sides do not. Unfortunately none of my photos show the deck area on the inside to see if they were lined with steel. Not sure where I got the photo's below but they are labled as 'Dual Purpose' Tipper/GS. In Photo A you can see the steel lining of the back tail gate.

Keith Webb · #6 16-06-09, 08:52

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Originally Posted by cliff

I'd have to see a photo to see which type of tipper body you have for sure but I have one photo where I can see that the back tail gate has a steel covering on the interior but the wooden sides do not. Unfortunately none of my photos show the deck area on the inside to see if they were lined with steel. Not sure where I got the photo's below but they are labled as 'Dual Purpose' Tipper/GS. In Photo A you can see the steel lining of the back tail gate.

That was the one I was thinking of. Those pics were taken at Wesley in Melbourne.

colin morley · #7 16-06-09, 10:43

Thank you for your help. My chev tipper looks the same as Rick Cove's collection on the old.cmp site. regards colin

cliff · #8 16-06-09, 11:05

You have the more normal type and the photo below shows that it does have a steel deck inside. Photo is from Pictures Australia and is from one of the State Libraries. It has always been my understanding that this type of tipper body was all steel.
11096h Army disposals Chevrolet 4-wheel drive tip-truck copy.jpg

here is another photo of the same truck as above. I have used photo shop to lighten the shadows under the deck and it appears to be an all steel body to me. Photo from the same source as above.
11098h Army disposals Chevrolet 4-wheel drive tip-truck copy.jpg

Keith Webb · #9 16-06-09, 11:43

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Originally Posted by cliff

here is another photo of the same truck as above. I have used photo shop to lighten the shadows under the deck and it appears to be an all steel body to me. Photo from the same source as above.

Absolutely, this one was all steel, a Tipper No4 of 2 1/2 cubic yard capacity.

Here's a pic I took around 1974 of a pair of F60S tippers in Ringwood Timber & Trading Co service:

http://www.imagecontrol.com.au/oldcm...t/rt&t_002.jpg

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A very rare survivor of the first type:

http://www.imagecontrol.com.au/oldcm...blitz_dmi1.jpg
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Data plates on a Chev:

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KiwiKev · #10 17-06-09, 02:26

Some Years ago (around 20 or so) I had an F30S Tipper.
When I got it home we started to realise that it was very different to the F60's that were shown in the "Bible" at the time (Fighting vehicles Directory by Bart Vanderveen)

The two main clues were that is did not have the standard split rims, they were "normal" looking truck wheels and it had duals on the back and spaces to fit the wheels on the front. It was with great effort that we found the "correct" spilt rims on a farmers trailer and swapped them over, only to find out years latter with the help of the WWW that I had swapped away the original wheels.

The second clue was when I went to hang a set of doors on the cab and found out that they didn't fit because of an extra "fillet" in the lead edge of the doorway.
It also had a square hatch and FORD OF CANADA stamped into the steel under the lights.
After many hours of detective work we deduced that it was a late model (1945) Australian assembled tipper that the NZ Army Engineers had used, we also later found the remains of several more both Fords and Chevs.

Where am I getting to; the body was a steel framed and U shaped ribbed body but had a wooden floor under the steel deck. I presumed it was an Australian Hardwood as it was the same colour (Tan) and density of the railway sleepers that we used to use in our fire at home. I guess it was to provide extra strength without using up valuable steel.

I don't know where the photos I had have gone, lost over the years. However I did find the following photo on the web some time ago and it was exactly what I had, I hope the photo comes out, I am not sure where I found it on the Web, so I hope its ok to post it.

Regards
Kevin

Regards
kevin

Euan McDonald · #11 17-06-09, 03:04

From my observation both wheels are correct. Some had duals on the rear and offset on the front and some ran the split centre line wheel.

colin morley · #12 21-06-09, 05:44

Just thought I might see how many tippers there are in Australia and on the web site. thanks Colin

Ryan · #13 26-01-13, 12:45

Seems a good enough place to put this seeing as the thread is about tippers. Here's a pic for sale on ebay I came across tonight showing the rear body of a tipper in action during WW2.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/WW2-1945-...item19d86a631e

Grant Bowker · #14 26-01-13, 14:04

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Originally Posted by Ryan

Seems a good enough place to put this seeing as the thread is about tippers. Here's a pic for sale on ebay I came across tonight showing the rear body of a tipper in action during WW2.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/WW2-1945-...item19d86a631e

Photos -posted so they won't disappear when the sale closes. The description suggests a RAAF connection.

lynx42 · #15 27-01-13, 10:03

Colin,

The wooden floor under the steel deck is as original. I guess it was to save steel.

Regards Rick.

Mike Cecil · #16 27-01-13, 17:44

RE the image:

I's an RAAF operated No.4 tipper in use with No.1 Airfield Construction Squadron (badge on the side says it all). 1ACS departed Moratai Island for Tarakan Island on 27 April 1945. Disbanded 30 November 1945. ACS's used a mix of CMP and HAR-1 based Tippers.

The CMP Aust No.4 versions had all steel trays. Earlier Aust versions were wood/steel construction (wood body, steel liner). The odd thing with this one is that it has single rear wheels, which was unusual on a No.4 tipper: Army operated No.4's almost invariably had dual rear wheels.

Mike C