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Old 28-07-09, 17:14
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Hi all,
after a while the "CMP scale modelling bug" has bitten me again! This time I'd like to convert an old Airfix/Italeri Chevrolet 15 CWT into a C60L.
Over the past weeks I went through all of the softskin's forum threads trying to get all te possible info and to avoid to ask questions already asked in the past, but there a few info I need to start my project.
  1. om the forum I've found the some drawings and pics of the F60L chassis. Is the Chevy exactly the same?
  2. can anybody help me with posting (or telling me where I can source) the drawings of the standard metal body for this truck?
  3. the kit comes with a 13 cab but I'd like to build from scratch an 11/12 cab, because these are the ones capured by the Italian Army in NA. Cliff on another thread said that the Tamiya's Quad cab is not in scale. Can anybody provide me with the measurements of that cab?
  4. are the cab dimensions the same regardless the fact that they were fitted on 15 or 60 chassis?
  5. I've seen around the net either originale or paper copies of the various CMP manuals, but they are far too expensive for a mere scale modelling use. Any news of the availability of these manuals in electronic (and hopefully cheaper ) format?
As usual thanks in advance for you time and kindness
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Old 28-07-09, 21:52
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I've seen around the net either originale or paper copies of the various CMP manuals, but they are far too expensive for a mere scale modelling use. Any news of the availability of these manuals in electronic (and hopefully cheaper ) format?
... you can download the MB-F1 and MB-C2 manuals at www.canadianregister.co.uk (free), go to the "Library" button.
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Old 28-07-09, 22:40
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Fabio the Tamiya Quad kit is about 1/32 scale and apart from the windscreen frame is a pretty accurate reproduction in the front sheet metal. So I suggest you use this kit and scale down from the measurements of it's parts as I know of no correct scale drawings available. I cannot find the 11/12 cab measurements I took from a few wrecks to build my 11 cab Ford G/S unfortunately. Cab measurements are the same between all models both in the 13 cab and 11/12 cab series although I think the front mudguards are narrower on the 8cwt models. The Ford models have a different in cab engine cover to the Chevrolet and the grill mesh differers as well as a few other minor details like mirror positions.

My 11 cab F60L model

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Old 28-07-09, 22:54
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here is some detail photos I took. The white square in some of the photos is 50mm square so you can scale off the photos. These are Fords except the last photo to show the Chev round vents and the Chev interior photos in the next post but the only difference is the round air vents of the Chev compared with the rectanglular ones of the Ford.
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File Type: jpg 19 CMP # 12 detail.jpg (7.5 KB, 56 views)
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Old 28-07-09, 22:56
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more........
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Old 29-07-09, 09:31
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Thanks everibody for the precious help, I've downloaded the pdfs and the pics.
Cliff, a few minutes ago a friend of mine brought me a bunch of copies of old articles taken from scale model magazines often including 1/32 and 1/35 drawings 60Ls. I've also bought from Hubert Cance some 1/35 scale drawings of a ford 15A. I put the Tamiya cab against them and I noticed that:
  • it's quite smaller than the 1/32 sketch (Model World Sep 1973)
  • sometimes it perfectly matches the 1/35 drawings (Ciro models F60L - resin conversion, Converting a Quad - Military Modelling Jan & Feb 1977, MAFVA 2175 March 1999)
  • it's some 3mm wider than Mr. Cance's drawings
I'll check the pics that you've kindly posted (by the way when did you leave Imperial to switch to metric?) hoping to solve the issue.
Is the chassis drawing you posted from a C60L? If so I can spot some differences between it and the F60L I've found on this very Forum. Any chance to have a bigger scan (because enlarging it to scale will end up in a very poor quality image)?
So I think that the only point left open is the one concerining the body (or the bodies).
Thanks once more for your help!
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