Wireless Set 19

RichardT10829 · #1 11-04-10, 19:39

I have been looking at these for some time to start slowly collecting bits for my carrier, can anyone advise what should be present for a 1942 Canadian Mk1 carrier ? i presume 2 - 3 head sets, base unit, leads, junction box x 2 ?, antennas ? any idea's ?

* Is there a place this stuff can be purchased at a reasonable price ?

* do you really need a licence to own a working unit in the UK ?

* does anyone have any pictures of their own WS19 setups they would be willing to post up ?

cheers in advance guys

Richie

tankbarrell · #2 12-04-10, 09:56

Richard, to some extent, the wireless installation depends on the use of the carrier but the standard set up for a Mk 1 is:-

19 set mk 2 c/w power supply unit no1
carrier no22
Aerial base no9
Aerial base no10
Control unit no2 mk 2
Control unit no1 mk2
Secondary batteries
Charging set.
Plus a variety of leads, mounting brackets etc etc. most of whish are specific to installation.

All the parts can be found in the usual places with the exception of the batteries, i.e. ebay but parts are getting harder to find and hence expensive!

No licence is required unless you transmit or intend to do so but be aware that some elements radiate a signal even when on receive so it's best not to take the chance.
Also be aware that the set is full of electrolytic capacitors which will have degenerated over time. If you apply full voltage, they will explode spectacularly! They can be reformed with care but I would advise getting someone who knows what they are doing as the HT side of the PSU generates very high voltages.

If it's just for show then it's no problem.

Adrian

Lynn Eades · #3 12-04-10, 10:16

Thanks for that very informative post

RichardT10829 · #4 12-04-10, 11:30

Cheers Adrian i would prefer a working one but by the sounds of it they are a bit of a time bomb..... i suppose the question would have to be raised (if you got a working one who the hell would you talk to) hahahahaha anything will do if its correct to the period etc

Ron Pier · #5 12-04-10, 12:15

As it has been explained to me. You need a Ham Radio Licence to transmit with a WS19. More involved than you might think??
My WS19 used to be in the back of my Morris. I was at a show in Poole some years ago and as mine is still able to transmit. I was talking (on the B set) to my mate in his Dingo who was parked next to me. An old Radio Ham guy got talking to us. He explained that the B set has a very short range horizontally...But vertically it could reach a Jumbo Jet...OOPS! Name withheld

Jordan Baker · #6 12-04-10, 12:55

Bruce Parker has got all the info/paper work for outfitting a Carrier Mk1* with a WS19. He sent me a copy of it all a few years ago. Perhaps check with him.

I Canada you need a license as well to transmit.

One word of caution though. As much as I'd love my WS19 to work in the carrier I wouldn't fell to safe using it at an event. The amount of power going to the antenna is huge and it would be so easy for someone to come up beside the carrier and grab onto it and be touching the hull and grounded all at the same time. Im quite happy having it just sit there for people to look at.

Bruce Parker (RIP) · #7 13-04-10, 03:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by tankbarrell

Richard, to some extent, the wireless installation depends on the use of the carrier but the standard set up for a Mk 1 is:-

19 set mk 2 c/w power supply unit no1
carrier no22
Aerial base no9
Aerial base no10
Control unit no2 mk 2
Control unit no1 mk2
Secondary batteries
Charging set.
Plus a variety of leads, mounting brackets etc etc. most of whish are specific to installation.

Adrian

There was no charging set on a Mk.1 carrier. They were often added later, but there was no provision for one. Fresh batteries were brought to the carrier each morning, much like rations, and exchanged for the dead ones. These were taken back for charging in a lead lined 'Machinery I' 60 cwt truck. You also couldn't run the 12 volt negative ground wireless set off the 6 volt positive ground vehicle electrical system.

cletrac (RIP) · #8 13-04-10, 07:33

Here's a drawing from Military Vehicles Profiles.

tankbarrell · #9 13-04-10, 09:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Parker

There was no charging set on a Mk.1 carrier. They were often added later, but there was no provision for one. Fresh batteries were brought to the carrier each morning, much like rations, and exchanged for the dead ones. These were taken back for charging in a lead lined 'Machinery I' 60 cwt truck. You also couldn't run the 12 volt negative ground wireless set off the 6 volt positive ground vehicle electrical system.

Thanks for the correction Bruce, I added the charging set as an afterthought as I knew the set required batteries. Never guess!

George McKenzie · #10 13-04-10, 18:35

I have a new complete MK2 19 Set still in the box .I can send you pictures if you like .I hate to put it in one of my vehicles . It has English and Russian on it .Likely was intended for lend-lease .Thanks for all the information guys .I wasn't aware of some of the tricks this little devel could cause

Ron Pier · #11 13-04-10, 21:29

Here is the installation in my MK2. Also the line drawing that I more or less copied for my Welsh Guard Stowage configuration. Ron