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Has anyone got genuine info regarding the carrier convoy tail axle light, I guess the Canadian carriers and british carriers used different types of lamp fittings, How were these fittings attached to the inside of the rear tool plates on a Mk1?. I have attached a picture of the type used on a British carrier and have one such lamp.
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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they bolt onto the tool plate with a bracket....that chap who is selling all the carrier stuff has a mk2 setup for sale he has a picture of the unit. i think they mounted the same on the mk1 and mk2 (on the tool plate) but were different where the rear light mounted....hope this helps.
if i recall it appeared to be two bolts through the tool plate into the mount for the lamp.
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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Here are the pics of a Cnd one. Bruce Parker and I came to the conclusion that these may have been added at some point late in the Mk1* production or done as an "add on" sometime after.
Pics are from the ebay auction.
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Jordan Baker RHLI Museum, Otter LRC C15A-Wire3, 1944 Willys MB, 1942 10cwt Canadian trailer |
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hi, That ebay one shows the goose neck and 3/4" conduit which is correct, but is that a true canadian carrier light fitting?. Anyone got any other images of the correct canadian type?.
kev.
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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The Canadian Carrier lamp is the same type fitted to Cab 11/12 CMPs:
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Kevin and Richard: I can send it over for a spell I suppose. I'll PM you later Kevin.
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jordan do you reckon that fitting on the end is original ? it kinda looks household but having never seen one i cant say yey or ney ?
here is the images from the parts catalogue pages 352 and 353 Mk1* ![]() ![]() Mk2* ![]() ![]()
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). Last edited by RichardT10829; 12-02-11 at 16:55. |
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Your last picture you posted shows this part. The part # ends with a "B" so there was probably more then one kind of light socket. This picture looks more like the CMP rear diff light. But again that would make sense as the CMP trucks moved away from the rubber housing to metal housings for the tail lights.
As for the light socekt. Yes it looks original. The socket is the same style as my original tail lamp.
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Jordan Baker RHLI Museum, Otter LRC C15A-Wire3, 1944 Willys MB, 1942 10cwt Canadian trailer |
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I have one stamped with the "B-WD-AFI" which is the same as one in your picture Kevin, but it is different.
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The bracket I have shown was mounted on the inside of the back plate using the two bolts used for the bottom of the right hand tow rope bracket.
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It would be great if you could do a drawing and post it.
Regards Jeff |
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I knew I had one around here somewhere, and as I was looking through an old bin of gunparts downstairs, there it was. This is the proper lamp for the carriers. It is a combination of the standard truck lamp (the tube, spring and lense) used with a bushing, then the smaller diameter electrical connector as well as a nut and some lock washers.
The bushing almost looks like the type used on conduit. On one of the photos I have gone high tech and drawn the part numbers relevant to each piece from the manual. There is a lock washer on this that is not listed. |
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Thanks Rob
So is the light socket part the same on both ends? Also thanks for straigtening out the cover, Those last pictures made much more sense then the first ones to me.
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Jordan Baker RHLI Museum, Otter LRC C15A-Wire3, 1944 Willys MB, 1942 10cwt Canadian trailer |
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Finished making three bellmouth fittings today, there are two of these on a Mk1 carrier, one for finishing the conduit end of to the rear convoy light switch and one for the horn on the front plate. The one in the middle is the original.
Also made a brake rod spring from an original one, made from spring steel. kevin.
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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