11 and 12 cabs

paul Lincoln · #1 30-03-11, 00:19

Can any of you "small detail" gents help me out with something that has cropped up during my research, please?
On studdying various photos of LRDG Ford F30 trucks (starting with the one Kuno rediscovered) I noticed that most have the pull switches on the dash boards. They also, nearly, all have the "over the bumper" type of tow hooks. I spotted that one vehicle in a photo has the later swivel tow eyes.
Is there a date cut off for either of these features, or were they fitted as available? Did any 12 cab models get fitted with Marmon Harrington axles, or was that a strict change over along with the cab type too?
Any informed help would be much appreciated. thank You.

cliff · #2 30-03-11, 01:50

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Originally Posted by paul Lincoln

Did any 12 cab models get fitted with Marmon Harrington axles, or was that a strict change over along with the cab type too?
Any informed help would be much appreciated. thank You.

No CMP to my knowledge was ever fitted with Marmon-Herrington Axles. Very early 11 cab Fords had Chev axles as Ford had not finished setting up to do their own front and rear axles for the 4X4 versions other then that Marmon-Herrington were used to convert civilian model 2WD trucks to 4WD. One difference between the CMP type front Axle and the Marmon-Herrington is the diff head is on the opposite side to each other. Hope this helps

David_Hayward (RIP) · #3 30-03-11, 08:37

Can I just add that initially it was thought that Ford and GM would share componentry, with one company making certain parts and the other making compatible parts. This mean for example that Ford in Windsor would produce cabs and The McKinnon Industries Ltd axles for front-wheel drive. This turned-out to be impractical given the vagaries of production, shipping and receipt overseas so GM in Oshawa started their own cab production and Ford's axle plant started their own azles/transfer cases etc.

Phil Waterman · #4 30-03-11, 16:19

Hi All

Just to add to the confusion of part sharing parts, to my knowledge all HUPs have Ford front brakes, as do both of my C60 trucks. And the F15A parts book has a numeric listing of nearly two pages of Chevy parts. So there was a significant sharing of parts. I'm sure as vehicles were repaired and overhauled whole assemblies such as front and rear axles crossed over from vehicle to vehicle.

There is of course the wide spread use of Ford V8s as replacements for most anything that moved in North Africa. (see Gregg"s book)

Cheers Phil

Lynn Eades · #5 30-03-11, 22:17

I think I picked up somewhere that Ford made all the CMP brakes.
Richard, can you elaborate?

David_Hayward (RIP) · #6 30-03-11, 23:10

I wonder if Kelsey-Hayes had a Canadian arm? They produced wheels and brakes for Ford of Britain and I can imagine that they also produced for Ford and GM of Canada. The British factory was adjacent to the Ford one at Dagenham.

Phil Waterman · #7 31-03-11, 01:42

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Originally Posted by Lynn Eades

I think I picked up somewhere that Ford made all the CMP brakes.
Richard, can you elaborate?

No the Rear brakes on HUPs and I believe C15s had Chevy brakes which just adds to the confusion, my HUP has those star wheel steel end caps without the rubber boot.

When your new to the game as I was then having clearly Chevy rear brakes on a Chevy truck made sense but then I could not fine the front brake parts in any Chevy parts book. Wasn't until I took the shoes of the front cleaned them and found the Ford logo that the light went on.

Cheers Phil