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Old 17-04-11, 02:28
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Default turn buckles and tank straps

Here are some more differences between Canadian and British built carriers.
The top turn buckle is Canadian. it has bigger diameter ends where the pins go through. The threads are not the same as the british ones which have the shorter brass section. the British ones come in the two variations shown at the bottom. I have not identified the theads.
The tank straps vary in that some have spot welded ends and some have riveted ends. This may be due to earlier/ later production, or even a sub contractors choice.
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Old 17-04-11, 07:53
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Excelent stuff Lynn.... i need to make some more floor T peice brackets for my straps as the ones in the hull are a shadow of their former self !
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Old 17-04-11, 08:52
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I need to make some too. I suspect that it's quite common that they rot out.

I think I'll make a program and get a load made on the cnc mill.

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Old 17-04-11, 11:52
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The originals were cast. Is the CNC mill the quick/ cheap way to do them?
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Old 17-04-11, 14:14
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I don't know? I'd need to see a good original to measure to be sure. I'd prefer them to be cast if that's what they were originally. Casting will probably be cheapest if there is a bulk quantity.

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Old 18-04-11, 20:20
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Lynn it is uncanny as today I received an item purchased from Ebay. A turnbuckle. It was designated RAF type AGS 141 ABC 15-20cwt 3.25". It looked and is very close to the carrier parts manual. So I googled it and came up with an aero company over here that had turnbuckles but not with the same AGS numbers.

I went back to the trusty parts manual and read the details more closely to find the detail CO1UC 105114 TurnBuckle - Fuel Tank Connections (UK No. MT15/ AGS-492 BCE). The company have thesebut they are not only very expensive but the body is parallel instead of being tapered slightly at each end. The BCE refers to the thread direction of the end-body-end.

The one I got from Ebay is almost exact. Incidently it was described as having been used on the Gloucester Gladiator around 1937! Why manufacture if there is one already being made?

So if anyone is successful in tracking down the Gadiator stores please let me have 3.

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Old 21-04-11, 09:48
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The originals were cast. Is the CNC mill the quick/ cheap way to do them?
Lynn i have been pondering on this one i reckon casting is the best way.. you could cast the triangular base then drill it and slide the retaining bar through for the strap. then when its under tension it will be held in place ? dont know seems the easier way to me though
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Old 21-04-11, 10:01
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You'd better try again Rich. I don't follow what you're trying to tell me.
We are talking about the little square bracket that rivets to the floor with 4 rivets. It has a central lug that connects to the strap, with a pin. Your turn.
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