ANSUL fire extinguishers

Robin Craig · #1 26-11-11, 04:35

Are or were all CF one blue?

What are the red ones?

R

Matthew Reid · #2 26-11-11, 05:38

Hi Robin

The Ansul Extinguisher most commonly used in light CF vehicles is a Model 5 (5lbs) Red Line Cartridge Operated type Extinguisher. These are high pressure extinguishers.

The standard units are red in colour. The low Temp ones (-54C -65F) are blue.

These extinguishers along with thier brackets are still available new from Ansul.

Matthew

Robin Craig · #3 26-11-11, 05:45

well, let me ask this then, were there any markings on a CF Ansul that identify them as military?

R

Matthew Reid · #4 26-11-11, 09:22

Not really no. They were just off the shelf Low Temp Model 5 Extinguishers.
Some may have got stenciled ( in white) while in service. But most I have seen were not

Matthew

chris vickery · #5 26-11-11, 16:00

Hi Robin, there is a pletora of info on this subject here on MLU, as I opened up a discussion regarding the subject early last spring.
If you are looking for these, you are better off to find used ones. If they are for display only it doesn't really matter if they are serviceable or not. My local guy here in North Bay can refill them as the company services CFB North Bay...
Brand new ones would scare you($$$$$$)

Jon Skagfeld · #6 26-11-11, 17:41

I've got a red 5 # Ansul mounted in my M38A1CDN3, on the 7077 silver bracket.

That extinguisher fits that bracket which matches up with the mounting holes.

The blue ones are common in the blue fleet, LSVWs and MLVWs. Being bigger, I guess that they're 10 #.

Yeah, check out Chris's previous thread for more information.

maple_leaf_eh · #7 27-11-11, 02:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin Craig

well, let me ask this then, were there any markings on a CF Ansul that identify them as military?

R

No markings, pure COTS. Our local surplus guy --- Wright near Kars had a few in his triwall boxes of surplus stuff last time I visited. There are differences between the wire frames needed for the military purchased ones and the current civilian catalogue. Ebay is not always your friend.

Barry Churcher · #8 27-11-11, 14:04

Pictured below for reference is this fine example of the extinguisher in question. It was in an M38A1 belonging to some old guy that I ran into at the ultimate military vehicle experience in the Ottawa area. I hope this ultimate experience will be repeated again this year and not forced to cancel as before. Bob? The old guy was John or Jan or Jon or something.
Cheers,
Barry

Jon Skagfeld · #9 27-11-11, 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Churcher

Pictured below for reference is this fine example of the extinguisher in question. It was in an M38A1 belonging to some old guy that I ran into at the ultimate military vehicle experience in the Ottawa area. I hope this ultimate experience will be repeated again this year and not forced to cancel as before. Bob? The old guy was John or Jan or Jon or something.
Cheers,
Barry

Barry...you

chris vickery · #10 27-11-11, 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

No markings, pure COTS. Our local surplus guy --- Wright near Kars had a few in his triwall boxes of surplus stuff last time I visited. There are differences between the wire frames needed for the military purchased ones and the current civilian catalogue. Ebay is not always your friend.

Sorry to disagree with you Terry, but I purchased the "civilian" bracket part#7077 Ansul which is the exact one that the CF uses.I bought it on eBay for
.99 cents and $10 shipping.

It is identical to one pulled off a 1970 M38A1.

Matthew Reid · #11 27-11-11, 18:57

The Model 7077 Bracket has changed over the years. These extinguishers have been around for decades and have evolved, as was mentioned there is the early style with rounded bottom and the later style with the flat bottom. The old style bracket for the flot bottom captured the bottom of the extinguisher and had the retaining band near the top of the extinguisher it was stopped from sliding out the top by the hanging loop on the extinguiser. The new style bracket has the retaining band on the bottom and captures the extinguisher at the top by the hanging loop.
So there is not a military/civilian bracket but an early/late style bracket the mouning hole locations did not change.
Most all of our stuff would have the early style bracket. Unless it was replaced at some point with the newer style.

Matthew