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Old 11-12-11, 12:28
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Default front armour steering box rivets

just been looking at some of Shauns pics of his front armour and his does not seem to have two rivets above the steering box to hold it on.... i have then gone through loads of carrier pics to find some carriers have the extra two rivets and some dont ? anyone any idea's ? i know shauns armour is original so its correct... just before i weld up the two holes i drilled !

if you look inside the carrier at the frame rail which runs along the top of the steering box armour, its there... they are there on Mk2's but not on all mk1's wonder if my steering box came from a mk2 ?













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Old 11-12-11, 16:10
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Hi Rich, That steering box I gave you is from a Mk2 British Carrier, I would leave the holes in as they are used for mounting the drivers steering guide vane on later Mk1's (Possibly used on Mk2's??).

The pic is a canadian 1943 mortar carrier.

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Old 11-12-11, 16:19
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I think it's a production point, all the early pictures I've seen don't have the holes but the later models do!

I guess the only way of knowing for sure is to find an original vehicle as close to yours in the production line and see what that has.

I have assumed you mean the holes that fix the steering box armour to the vertical drivers armour not the ones Kevin mentions in the top of the steering box armour, either way I'd assume that both sets of holes came in at a similar time as earlier carriers don't have either sets but later ones do......

Kevin or Ricks might be a good guide as both, I think are quite early Canadian ones.

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Old 11-12-11, 16:19
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AHHH Rich, just realised you are talking about the two holes on the front drivers armour plate, I think they are counter sunk rivets in the two holes as the rivet head needs to clear the vision slot sliding armour glass when fully down. I will check on a carrier but i think you will find the rivet heads on the inside on the angle iron aligned with those two holes.

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Old 11-12-11, 16:21
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Or Kevins right and they can't be seen as they're countersunk :-)
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Old 11-12-11, 16:47
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I've just checked, there are on the early carriers but only visible on the inside. This suggest Kevin was right and they're countersunk holes.

Perhaps the ones visible in your photos are replacement ones?

The earlier carriers don't have the driving aid on top of the steering box according to my info.

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Old 11-12-11, 20:08
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Yes they are there, and as Ben says, the holes are countersunk with a flat finished rivet
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