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Is any one out there making MK I carrier seat parts. I have borrowed a drivers seat to copy and am going to attempt to make my own seats both drivers and gunners.
The only hard parts to make are the castings where the seats attach to the hull.
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Roberta Jayne Melville CD II QJ MK I * universal carrier 1942 WLC Harley under restoration 1957 M38A1 jeep R.E.L. optical equipment Military manuals Field phones MK II 19 set (needs work) 4 MK III W-19 sets AN/PRC-9 CPRC-26 WS-29 componets WS-38 AFV WS-38 MK III WS-48 with generator WS-58 MK I MK V heliograph |
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Again talking about MK I carrier seats.
Does any one have the dimentions for the seat backs, width, height, thickness of the board, is the board plywood? Thickness of the padding. Nigels books have good pictures but no figures. I have the plates for the top of the seat backs and 2 upper mounting brackets.
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Roberta Jayne Melville CD II QJ MK I * universal carrier 1942 WLC Harley under restoration 1957 M38A1 jeep R.E.L. optical equipment Military manuals Field phones MK II 19 set (needs work) 4 MK III W-19 sets AN/PRC-9 CPRC-26 WS-29 componets WS-38 AFV WS-38 MK III WS-48 with generator WS-58 MK I MK V heliograph |
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I dont have the info you require, and need the same for my self, so as I attempt to help you with what I can. I imagine there are quite a few Canadians around you with originals, but they are obviously shy.
The MkI* seats (apart from where "handedness" applies) are the same both sides. That means they both go up and down. The top brackets are the same as the bottom brackets and you will find matching pairs of holes in the division plate for the lower ones. What I have here is the original seat back covers. From them, I would guess that the foam/padding/ horse hair etc is 1.000" (or 25mm) thick. The overall width is 37.5mm, and the overall height is 647mm. This includes the borders. There are 4 lift the dot things on each side and 4 along the top. There are 5 along the bottom, but the bottom end opens for the padding to be inserted. The L.T.D things are part of the front cover, and the studs for the L.T.D fittings pass through eylets in the rear half of the cover. I didnt have a sample so cut some flat bar, and welded some rod to it for my brackets across what I would guess is 1/2" ply. My covers may have shrunk, but the gap between the brackets on the div plate will tell you the max width. I cannot tell you what height the top of the seat back sits at. If you need any more info I can do that regards the bases. I can't remember details, but Jordans carrier thread is very informative. Go Girl! ps. I think the stud photo is Jordans. If you can find a source. I need them.
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... Last edited by Lynn Eades; 18-05-12 at 23:48. Reason: additional info. |
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Here's some pics of a Mk2 seats but I don't know if the Mk1 were the same. If they were I'll get you some measurements.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set 1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis 1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun 1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends 1941 Cab 12 F15A 1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5 1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box 1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box 1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP 1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box 1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2 |
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They are quite different, but thanks for the pictures, I have never seen the MKII* seats before.
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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Those are really modified Mk2 seats ! in fact the gunners seat looks totaly wrong.
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Shaun Hindle Morris C8 Ford GPW jeep 1945 Morris 1000 (ex mil) SAS LSV Harley Davidson MT 350 motor cycle Universal carrier MK 1*1943 Ronson (under restoration) Universal carrier MK 2* 1944 (Puddle Jumper HSK 345) Ferret MK 1/1 1956 Ferret MK 2/4 1958 CVR(T) Scorpion 432 MK2 Daimler MK1 armoured car 1943 (winner best wheeled armour W&P show 2011) Daimler Dingo MK2 1944 (awaiting restoration, aquired 11/12/2011) Fordson WOT 3 D 1940 (awaiting restoration ) |
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Thanks for that very helpful post.
![]() However can I suggest that is a MII* seat back, as the early (1941 MkI*) parts book shows the same upper and lower brackets on the division plate, and the same straight ended bar (CTL5062), at the top and bottom of the seat back. Another possibility is, just a change during production, ie. Early and late MkI* production.
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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