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Old 27-06-12, 17:26
Piper Piper is offline
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HI fellas

So our carrier has been invited to a local cruise-in night and I'm trying to determine if there is a specific category for a trip permit. I went to my local MTO Office here in Huntsville ON and they didn't know; I called the MTO in Toronto and the carrier doesn't fit under their regs. I've heard that UCs are being paraded in Ottawa ON so I'm wondering if they are getting trip permits, no permit.. any "paperwork" etc.

Thoughts?
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Old 27-06-12, 19:14
peter simundson peter simundson is offline
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But there is no permit for road travel. Has to go on a trailer.
If it's only a couple of miles you might get away with it. And in the parade at a slow speed you won't get troubled.
Problem is insurance, You can't get it. Then it has to have an ownership.

Many years ago I tried to get the DTC to license Carriers for on road use.
After many discussions they said if they are insured they will license them. I was in the middle of getting that done when MLU members started crying not to do it because they were happier in hiding.
Some tracked vehicles like bulldozers don't require plates as they are normally off road and are covered under the Construction Company's policy.

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Old 27-06-12, 23:05
Hans Mulder Hans Mulder is offline
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Slow moving vehicle sign or ATV insurance will at least cloud the waters sufficiently to get there and back.
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Old 28-06-12, 00:03
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Default road run

Sorry you guys have so many problems to be able to drive on the road.
Check out A & E 2012 on the forum.
(M2U00145)
In England it is much simpler.

barry

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Old 28-06-12, 01:51
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Hans and Peter are pretty much on the money with respect to the requirements (or lack thereof).

Due to the unique status of the Carrier it could be categorized more along the lines of a 'Road Building Machine' or 'Off Road' vehicle under their regulations as opposed to a Motor Vehicle under the Highway Traffic Act. You would be amazed at what some of the farmers out here get away with as an 'Implement of Husbandry'.

Insurance would be a necessary for your own protection, whether it comes under an offroad vehicle such as an ATV or business equipment like small construction companies and their Skid Steers, Landscaping machines etc. And Insurance Companies are a world unto themselves.

A Slow Moving Vehicle sign would also be mandatory. You could attach it magnetically so its non permanent. I would think the only thing that would raise an eyebrow would be the fact that it is a tracked machine.The Carrier doesn't have a heavy enough footprint to tear up the asphalt so it really shouldnt be a cause of concern.

And of course the Rules of the Road apply. The really sad part is the fact that because it sits in a great grey area of the Acts and Regulations it could be grossly misinterpreted by non vehicle/mechanical/historically inclined officials!

However if you really want to go untouched and unnoticed just put a couple fake tin can 'Tuner' exhaust tips on the back, a non functional whale tail spoiler on the back and neon lights illuminating the tracks. Throw a couple dumb assed big as a house speaker boxes in it and you can get away with pretty much whatever you want!

You do raise an interesting issue though, and if anyone has specific detailed questions I would be more than happy to make an official enquiry to the Ministry to get an answer from the Horse's mouth. It could take a while for a response though.......

Jim
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Old 28-06-12, 02:38
Stew Robertson Stew Robertson is offline
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Just register it under 194---- ford serial no what ever and go get a historical plate once you have the plate insurance will follow
Typical bullshit! what they don't know wont hurt them
If you are stopped show them the pap ers
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