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1971 CDN3 CFR 08715
Barn find, one owner since release in the mid 80's
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Looks liike it bounced around a bit during it's service life. It is recorded as having sold for $2324 on disposal.
CFR No Departure Arrival HUIC Unit 08715 23-May-86 24- Feb-86 1811 1 CANADIAN SIGNAL REGIMENT 08715 24-Feb-86 27-Aug-85 0121 CFB Moose Jaw 08715 27-Aug-85 13-May-85 1732 CFB EDMONTON DETACHMENT WAINWR 08715 13-May-85 23-Jun-83 0121 CFB Moose Jaw 08715 23-Jun-83 28-Oct-81 1732 CFB EDMONTON DETACHMENT WAINWR 08715 28-Oct-81 01-Jan-70 0122 CFB CHILLIWACK |
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Nice looking M38A1CDN3!
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Thanks Rob
Its Western life probably explains why the tub is so solid. After about an hour of tinkering I have it running. Runs well and no smoke or weird noises. Not too bad considering it was last run over 6 years ago. A couple strange items to note: The original tub serial number plate is present, 99921 which is CFR 08715 as noted. The original data plates were swapped out for a set from 1967, likely sometime as I heard plates were often mismatched during paint parties. The other odd item is a hinged grill. Maybe a replacement from a cannibalized jeep? Everything else is for sure a 1970 model
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Also Rob, is there any way to establish specific unit use of said Jeep or was its presence at Wainwright or Moosr Jaw just that of a motorpool vehicle to be signed out to whomever needed it?
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No, ownership cannot go any further than the parent unit. The information only lists the parent unit (ie Moose Jaw) and not the lodger units which woudl include just about any militia unit in Saskatchewan. That is where paint removal will become important.
As well, some of the modifications like GPMG mounting may give an indicator as to which unit had it. As to the grill, when we would go to the manual, it gave us an NSN for a grill. Unless you found the Cdn2/Cdn3 stock number in the parts manual supplements, you ended up with the 1953 parts. When I was in, we ordered the welting for the top of the grill. Supply was out of it, so they sent us the next higher assembly, which was a complete grill (hinged). I often saw data plates swapped out after it's military life. Often it was to circumvent export rules to the US. A Cdn 2 was old enough to head south, but a Cdn 3 could not.As well, Shilo was a base that, with little else to do in the 80s, got tasked with rebuilding (often by mix and match) written off Jeeps to extend the life of the fleet. Our example in the museum does not have matching numbers, nor did one I bought locally a couple years ago. |
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Unusual that there is a jerry can holder inside (unless it is just loose and sitting there).
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Terry
That is the original albeit beat up jerrycan holder. Already replaced with a better condition donor.
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I had a chance to take a better look at my grill.
The grill is a 1970 with the center mount. The frame matches this and has the reinforced, boxed frame rails. What is weird about this setup is that it also has hinges on the grill and frame the same as a 1953 version. Why? who knows... The frame hinges look like they were added for sure.
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