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15-cwt office truck in the desert
Vic Eaton sent me pictures recently of a C15 in the North African desert.
Although it's resolution is not great, you can see a frame fitted to the side of the canopy and rolls of canvas on top: 13567113_296439560693259_5830253525658546071_n.jpg IMG_0001.jpg I recalled seeing this frame on 15-cwt truck before, and today I happened to come across a picture depicting the use of this frame. It looks it was used to attach an office tent to the (possibly both) side(s) of the truck: desert-camping.jpg Caption: A CMP Chevrolet truck in use by AFPU cameramen in the Western Desert, 28 April 1942 Question: Does anyone know more about this variant? Thanks, Hanno
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On the left picture of Vic it is C15 but on the right the truck is F15, Z1326805 on the IWM picture (Cat. No. E 11097) is also Ford. Indeed, in the caption there it is Chevrolet.
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Thanks Ilian, this proves both C15's and F15's were converted and it is not a one-off office variant cobbled together in the field.
Like I said, I have seen pictures of these trucks with the tubular frame hanging off the side before, will try to find them.
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The Chev is pulling a trailer. Could these have been Wireless Trucks with early pattern Penthouses?
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Thanks, good tip. But the one at the top of this thread has a 2B1 body, the same as the one depicted below. AFAIK, the 2B1 was not produced as an office variant, like the 2C2 you listed.
So the subject body may have been an in-theatre conversion, though not a one-off. As this filled an obvious need, this was later taken in production as a factory-fitted office body like the 2C2. Royal_Air_Force-_Operations_in_the_Middle_East_and_North_Africa,_1940-1943._CM3619.jpg
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We know there was a HUP with penthouse - see below. So the idea developed earlier on during the war may have been the trigger to develop the penthouse. Note how the canvas was rolled up on the roof when not in use. The version depicted below used tent poles to keep the penthouse upright. The one pictured at the top of this thread had a tubular frame plus poles. CZ4214008.jpg CZ4228552.jpg
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"Object description: A CMP Chevrolet truck in use by AFPU cameramen in the Western Desert, 28 April 1942." As Ilian said, it is not a Chevrolet but a Ford F15 with WD census number Z1326805. Note that it has sand channels fitted on top of the roof, just behind the hatch. IWM E 11097.jpg IWM E 11097 F15 Z1326805.jpg
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The mine damaged F15 is not an Aust pattern rear body, looks more like a Canadian 1C1 type. But I agree it's the same configuration.
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The body is a 2B1 GS, though: attachment1EVHKE2C.jpg
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Note the wooden planking on top of the tilt, the air recognition roundel and sun compass bracket on the roof. Have a look at the extensive mine damage - I reckon the driver did not survive the blast, albeit not without grave injuries... 66450350_2335888093290623_5348972443899789312_o.jpg
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My old F15A (ex Ken Hughes yard) which was sold back to Qld (Richard, he is a member here on MLU) was an office body according to its ARN.
I shall try to find and post the information I got when searching the Australian National Archives on the Office Body types. From memory, there was a 1 and 2 version to the 15cwt, and (for lack of comparison), I might recall correctly a difference between the F15, F15A and F60. In original fitment of canvas, it would have made for a great rally/camping vehicle!!! Ian.
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A Company Office in the Desert
A Company Office in the Desert
HQ of an Indian Army infantry battalion complete with mascot. This photo appeared in the 9 November, 1940 issue of The Sphere. 5044855462_8712f2b94a_k.jpg Source: https://flic.kr/p/8FNcLA
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Thanks for posting Hanno! That appears to be the canopy of an 8cwt.
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Indeed it is Alex. But is it off a British or Canadian truck?
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I bow to your knowledge....
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