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I'm askind this question to our well documented friends: Do you know if Firefly tanks were used by the Sherbrooke Fusiliers Regiment in Europe ??
I have a friend of mine who wants to put some Sherbrooke's marking on his Firefly kit but i could not find any info on this. Thanks
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The Sherbrooke Fusiliers had been equipped with Sherman Vc Fireflies before their embarkation for the Normandy landings. Below is a table showing the loading of the landing craft carrying the Sherbrooke Fusiliers. It is from the book “Bloody Buron! Canada’s D-Day + 1” by John Gilbert.
It shows that the Sherbrooke Fusiliers had landed on D-day with: 12 Sherman Vc, 46 Sherman III, 10 Stuart V, and 6 Humber Scout Cars. Last edited by John McGillivray; 19-10-04 at 00:04. |
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Hi John,
Thanks for your reply. In the listing, when it says "Sherman Vc" their not refering to Fireflies right ?? Then, when were they used those Fireflies ? In England ??
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The “Sherman V” is the British designation for the American 75mm M4A4. The letter “C” is added to the British designation when the Sherman is fitted with the British 17 pounder gun. In other words the Sherman Vc is the 17 pounder equipped version of the Sherman V. The 17 pounder Shermans are also known as the “Firefly”.
The Sherbrooke Fusiliers received the Fireflies (Sherman Vc) just before they were loaded on the ships for the Normandy invasion. They landed on the Normandy Beaches on the afternoon of June 6th. Their first action was on June 7th along with the North Nova Scotia Highlanders. Below is a photo of a Sherman Vc firefly from the Sherbrooke Fusiliers which was knocked out on June 7th near Authie. The troops standing on the tank are from the 12th SS Panzer Division “Hitlerjugend” See the link below for the account of the battles on June 7th, 1944, from the Regimental history of the North Novas. North Nova Scotia Highlanders History Last edited by John McGillivray; 19-10-04 at 04:28. |
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Thanks John for those info,
I did know the designation of the "c". After landing, did they received some Sherman V ? If i can remember i saw some pics of Sherman V running through the streets of Falaise with Sherbrooke Fusiliers markings. Also did they used their Fireflies till the end of war? Would you (or someone else) has some pics of a Firefly with Sherbrooke markings? Thanks again and sorry for all those questions!! I just need to clarify this point with my friends. Luc
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From: Illustrated History of the RCAC. Marteinson and McNorgan. 2000 RCAC Assoc. regards Darrell |
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Just out of interest,there is a Sherman Firefly outside the Three Rivers Regiment armoury in Trois Rivieres,Quebec.it's mounted on a cement base.
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Hi Enthusiast,
It seems that the Three-Rivers "Firefly" is in fact a "fake" one. Follow this link for info: Three-Rivers Regiment "Cathy"
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Sorry for resurrecting a decade old thread, but have a question about the markings for the Sherbrooke regiment.
Is there any known reason why the formation and unit signs are not visible in the period photos/stills of the action around Authie and Buron of June 7 1944? Did they not have time to apply them, an order not to use them, bad film reproduction, or something else? ![]() Any ideas what the numbering scrawled on the front here represents - loading info or was this something the Germans put on after this Vc was knocked out? regards, Jack Last edited by Hanno Spoelstra; 22-10-13 at 13:32. Reason: attached picture because one day the link will be gone! |
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It looks like the complete loading code is
1044/1/716 |
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The first set of numbers, i.e., 1044, is always the Unit Serial. This number is used in a variety of official uses, including the War Diary and is established under Canadian Army General Orders.
As many units only received their Shermans shortly before the invasion it is not unusual to see these without markings. C
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