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Old 08-08-25, 05:16
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I am not at all sure of the history of this photo that turned up on Facebook, however, can anyone determine what series of Universal Carrier this is and if the attached armour extensions with long pins to secure them was an official conversion, or something that was likely a field expedient modification?

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Old 08-08-25, 06:12
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Not armour at all. These are deep wading screens used for landings such on during the Normand landings.
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Old 08-08-25, 10:37
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Deep Wading screen.
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Old 08-08-25, 12:31
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And without the plates
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Old 08-08-25, 20:55
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The plates were part of a kit that was provided to allow the Universal Carrier to wade ashore from a landing craft. The kits were vehicle specific and provided not only the plates but all of the necessary sealants, waterproofing material and instructions to complete the job prior to loading for the assault.

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Old 09-08-25, 06:32
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perhaps a better match than a British made carrier, here is an image of an obsolete Ford Canada MK-I* now updated to MK-II. Occasionally referred to as MK-II W.G.S. , (Welsh Guard Stowage)

Not C31UCW No-2 MK-II*, which was not deployed during the early months following the Normandy landings.

Assorted reference sources, though Nigel Watson, Universal Carriers, Volumes 1 & 2 are exceptional. Volume 3 has a drawing archive to complement the book.
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Old 09-08-25, 18:19
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Occasionally referred to as MK-II W.G.S. , (Welsh Guard Stowage).
I've seen the term 'Welsh Guards Stowage' in books and on blogs for years, but I've never seen it explained. Do you know what WGS is or means?
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I am not at all sure of the history of this photo that turned up on Facebook, however, can anyone determine what series of Universal Carrier this is and if the attached armour extensions with long pins to secure them was an official conversion, or something that was likely a field expedient modification?
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The incorrectly labeled Archives Canada sourced image was taken about 04 June, 1944 in UK during final preparation for Operation Neptune. The universal carrier was an obsolete Canadian MK-1* that has been updated in UK to MK-II. The update program accepted carriers with minimum condition status scores of 75%.
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Old 09-08-25, 06:14
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I am not at all sure of the history of this photo that turned up on Facebook, however, can anyone determine what series of Universal Carrier this is and if the attached armour extensions with long pins to secure them was an official conversion, or something that was likely a field expedient modification?
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While the LST had vehicles substantially attributed to 14th Field, RCA, the error is clear, n’est-ce pas ?

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