Workshop Trucks

Neil Ashley · #1 20-01-06, 19:08

I have been reading the establishment details for a war-time REME Light Aid Detachment Type "C".

In this document as part of the vehicles allocated it list a Machinery, type "K light".

Am I correct in saying that this is a 15cwt with welding plant, or is it a conventional 3 ton Workshop Truck?

Les Freathy · #2 20-01-06, 19:16

Hi Neil
Its a 15cwt i will dig out the spec sheet and post it now you have started this workshop thread lets open it up to all types be it British, Canadian<US, German etc i have plenty to include but would like to see some of the material that other members may have, well done
Les

Les Freathy · #3 22-01-06, 09:22

Hi Niel
I am still trying to locate the spec sheet, wonder why it is that things are never where they should be. | have probably taken it of the file and put it back in a hurryinto the wrong one, meantime heres a photo of the Bedford MW Ktype Machinery
Les

Les Freathy · #4 22-01-06, 09:24

and a CMP 15cwt seen this up as both a Ktype and articised generator

Richard Farrant · #5 22-01-06, 15:47

Quote:

Originally posted by Neil Ashley
In this document as part of the vehicles allocated it list a Machinery, type "K light".

Am I correct in saying that this is a 15cwt with welding plant, or is it a conventional 3 ton Workshop Truck?

Neil,

A "K Light" or as it was officially known "KL", was a 15 cwt truck, described as; "Plant, Welding, Electric, Single operator, Engine driven". Also mated with "Trailer, Gas welding".

It superceded "K" which was a 3 ton 6x4 which carried electric and gas welding equipment as well as two forges, anvils and blacksmiths tools.

Richard

servicepub (RIP) · #6 22-01-06, 17:15

Les Freathy · #7 22-01-06, 17:36

Thats the way to do it Clive, not seen any of those before. Now Neils query is near complete this thread will hopefully expand with interest.
Two more to stoke up the fire
Ford F60H NO11 cab workshops, must be early bodies with wheel arch cut outs
Crossley Q RAF type any one have any idea of its function

Neil Ashley · #8 23-01-06, 19:01

Thank you for the information gentlemen.

I had assumed it was most likely to be a welding truck, but the wording in the REME document namely Machinery, type "K light" was different to the normal nomenclature.

I am in the process of researching what vehicles would have be in a Type "C" REME LAD supporting a Reconnaissance Corps Regiment during WW2. With the above confirmation the vehicles would have consisted of 2 Motor Cycles, one Truck 15cwt 4X4 Armoured Personnel (White Scout Car but replaced by Half-Track during the NW Europe Campaign), one 15cwt FFW, one 3 ton 4X4 (binned), one Tractor 6X4 Breakdown Heavy, and one 71/2 ton Recovery Trailer. A total of 25 Personal.

This is obviously totaly inadequete to provide all the support required by a Recce Regiment, but many people forget that when REME was first formed, many unit badged tradesmen engaged in first line repair were not transfered over untill post-war, to reduce the amount of disruption. There were at least two Breakdown Vehicles operated by Recce badged soldiers in the regiment.

Les Freathy · #9 27-01-06, 21:07

Neil
At last here is the spec sheet ont he KL machinery
LES

Les Freathy · #10 28-01-06, 18:46

A early Guy FBAX 3ton workshop of pre war times followed by a super 1/76 scale model of the same by friend and fellow member Richard Allibone, you can see some of the interior detail but believe me when Richard makes a model its all there
Les

cliff · #11 28-01-06, 21:28

Fantastic model Les. I find braille scale models just a little small for me.

Cheers
Cliff

Keith Webb · #12 01-02-06, 05:33

http://oldcmp.net/images/Ford_Canada...291Q_KL_LH.jpg

Ford model C291Q (F15A).

servicepub (RIP) · #13 04-02-06, 16:49

This truck was an early (1939-1940) recruiting tool for the Royal Canadian Army Service Corps. It may be a one-off.
http://www.servicepub.com/images/rcasc2.jpg
http://www.servicepub.com/images/rcasc1.jpg
http://www.servicepub.com/images/rcasc3.jpg

Les Freathy · #14 04-02-06, 19:42

Nice photos Clive i think that truck is a Autocar, dont know which model though

servicepub (RIP) · #15 04-02-06, 19:54

Previously posted photo
.
This is the recruit convoy which is part of the same series. I wouldn't know an Autocar if I tripped over one, however.

http://www.servicepub.com/images/recruitconvoy.jpg

jim sewell · #16 05-02-06, 13:40

The picture below is an Australian built workshop body as fitted to a C60L , these bodies were made at Fishermans Bend at Port Melbourne , GMH Plant.
This has the wooden sides and tail gate ( drop down benches ) removed , the canvas sides were extra long and long spikes were carried to prop the edges of the canvas up so as to give more protection from the weather. This particular one was a tyre repair unit . The wood used was Tasmanian Oak which unfortunately the white ants liked ( termites ).

Jim S.

Keith Webb · #17 05-02-06, 19:20

This one is seen in Canberra last year for VP Day and belongs to the Bandiana Army Museum.

http://www.oldcmp.net/images/events/...inery_0025.jpg

And an in service shot in the early 1960s:

http://www.oldcmp.net/Images/Albums/...d/Workshop.jpg

Don Birnie · #18 05-02-06, 21:29

Keith
Great picture of the Ford KL.Do you have a picture of the drivers side.
The pictures I have are not as crisp and clear and I can't see the details.
Question: Any idea what the object between the portable forge and the spare tire is.
It seems to be some type of table turned upside down.
I'm sure its not for the forge because it looks like the one I have and it has it's own legs that are stored inside it.
Again thanks for the picture.

Don

Keith Webb · #19 05-02-06, 22:14

Here's the mystery object. Looks like an upside down table as you suspected.
c291q_kl_lh.jpg

Here it is from the other side:
c291wq_machkl_rh.jpg

Phil Waterman · #20 05-02-06, 23:21

I took these photos at Camp Borden back in 1984 this welding truck had been in use by base maintenance department until recently.

Phil Waterman · #21 05-02-06, 23:23

Here is a mobile machine shop that was part of the base museum

Don Birnie · #22 06-02-06, 00:43

Keith, Phil: Thanks for the quick replies. Great pictures. These will help me with the outfitting of my KL.
All I have to do now is look for the tool box's or try to make them.
I guess there would be stock numbers for these. Anyone able to help with these or tell me where I would find them.
Still need an answer to what the upside down table is for.
Any and all replies welcome.

Thanks in advance,
Don

Jordan Baker · #23 06-02-06, 03:26

Could it not just be a small step thats upside down. It looks the the army version of the newer plastic ones that CDN sells.

There also doesn't seem to be any ready access to get up onto the back of the truck. The height of the unknown object comes up to about the halfway mark of the wheels. It would sure make getting into the back easier.

Keith Webb · #24 06-02-06, 03:41

Looks like it's made from 1/4" steel which would be overkill as a step...

cliff · #25 06-02-06, 07:18

I have just gone through my folder of Workshop photos (mainly AWM). While I have lots showing the soldiers working on tables and also a lot showing the machinery inside the workshop trucks none shows a table as sturdy as the one Keith has shown on the 15cwt truck.

If folk want me to post some of these AWM photos I will.

Cheers
Cliff

jim sewell · #26 06-02-06, 12:04

Cliff
Have posted a picture of a C60L Automotive Workshop that I have , do you have any pic's that would show the lay out inside .
Regards
Jim S.

img573.jpg

This truck has only done 3000 miles since new .

img574.jpg

Jordan Baker · #27 06-02-06, 14:37

Hi everyone

I found a few pictures of that upside down item being used. Ok so it wasn't a step.

Its a small table for an anval. The pictures can be found in "Blueprint for Victory" pg 110. Pictures 145, 146, 147

Les Freathy · #28 06-02-06, 14:47

A couple more oldies a Leyland Retriever machinery type "I" battery charging plant 7 to 15 volt

Les Freathy · #29 06-02-06, 14:50

And a type 1-30 charging plant this one charges from15 to 30 volts based on a Karrier CK6

Bill Murray · #30 06-02-06, 16:01

Heres one from the Poles in Italy photo collection.
Not sure exactly what it is.
Bill