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Does anyone have any pictures/info on how the canvas for the back bed was attached to the sides/tail/front of the bed? Also, does anyone have any measured drawings relating to the configuration of the canvas?
Regards, Jim |
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![]() I think they also used a variation of those modern 'make sense' canvas fittings that are easy to buy anywhere . The canvas would have been a heavy grade, 20oz at least Mike
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The top bar in the top bow assembly is bolted to the frame. The canvas has a pocket in it that this bar goes through before the bar is bolted in place. This makes it so you can roll up one or both sides of the canvas and keep the rest in place. It's sort of a self stowing setup
In the frontal pic you can see how the front panel wraps around the sides and snaps in place. There's a row of brass fasteners along the inside front of the box to hold the bottom of the front panel. The sides of the top assembly have more of these fasteners to hold the bottom of the sides in place. The back has a few of these fasteners too as well as a couple of straps that tie onto rings in the back of the box. I'll post a few pix of my body tomorrow.
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Thanks, Mike and David, for your quick replies! Although I do have the drawing for the frame with measurements, I didn't have anything that identified the method of attaching the canvas to the frame. Will look forward to the pictures of your truck, David.
Regards, Jim |
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There are also some good details to be seen on Mike's Blue PU pages
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Here's a few detail pix of attachment stuff.
The first is the fasteners that go along the front of the box and in the second you can see the seven of them down about 3 or 4 inches from the top. They point back and the front canvas attaches inside the box. The battery switching panel attaches below this level and is spaced to the rear so it stays inside the canvas top.The sides and rear attach outside the box. The sides attach to the tilt frame with 8 of the same type fasteners per side as are used on the sides of the windshield frame. These are the ones that Mile says have a thin strip of metal in a loop in the canvas to keep it tight to the box. The third pic shows the loop beside the endgate that the strap on the canvas ties to. The rusty patch that didn't get sandblasted shows where the sign holder was mounted. The wireless trucks had the folding legs on the bottom of the tilt assembly so you could remove it and use it as a tent like in the last pic. The personnel variants didn't have this feature. There's more details on my C8 data plate thread. That removable tilt feature is unique to the 8 cwt trucks.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set 1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis 1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun 1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends 1941 Cab 12 F15A 1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5 1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box 1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box 1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP 1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box 1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2 |
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David,
Thanks for the information! Very helpful! Regards, Jim |
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Checked the drawing I have and couldn't find the size of the tubing used for the frame. Any help on that will be appreciated.
Regards, Jim |
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One inch tubing ..I think it was actually thick pipe for the main bows.. David will tell us more .
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Mike,
Thanks for the information! Regards, Jim |
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The bows are made of ordinary galvanized 3/4" inside diameter pipe. The outside is 1 1/8" or thereabouts. This is the stuff plumbers use.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set 1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis 1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun 1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends 1941 Cab 12 F15A 1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5 1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box 1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box 1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP 1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box 1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2 |
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I think the thick plumbers pipe was for the "across" three main bows.. but the lengthwise stays , with the squashed in indentations for bolting to the bows, was a thin tubing ..just a guess ...
Mike PS the 1" OD plumbers galv. stuff here , which has a 3/4" inside diameter ..is threaded with 3/4" BSP threads
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Mike, I checked the bows and it looks like it's all made of the pipe and not tubing. Where it's flattened out it's over 1/4" thick.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set 1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis 1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun 1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends 1941 Cab 12 F15A 1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5 1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box 1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box 1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP 1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box 1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2 |
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OK, I can see how the front piece affixes to the inside front of the bed (7 "snaps") as well as how it's split up to the first cross member and has a flap that attaches it (3 "snaps") to the side pieces. I also understand how the side pieces are attached to the bed.
Looking as closely as I can to the pictures available of the back section of the canvas I do not see the same split as found on the front. How did the back fold up neatly with the rear corners not being split? Puzzled, Jim |
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Back Canvas:
Forgot to say in the last sentence "when the sides are rolled up". |
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