M38A1CDN2 Front Bumper Length

[Mike Baker]

Wondering if anyone knows exactly how long an M38A1CDN2 front bumper is supposed to be? Mine appears to have a US or after-market bumper, and I would like to get it cut down to the proper size. If anyone has some bumper "close-up" photos, that would also be helpful.

Mike

[Wpns 421]

Originally Posted by Mike Baker

Wondering if anyone knows exactly how long an M38A1CDN2 front bumper is supposed to be? Mine appears to have a US or after-market bumper, and I would like to get it cut down to the proper size. If anyone has some bumper "close-up" photos, that would also be helpful.

Mike

My wife, has a 1967 M38A1 Cdn and right now it is in the garage where we are working on it. I will measure it and send you the info. Will try to get piactures but our bumper has a tow rope coiled around it. Gilles

[paul53]

Hi Mike,

Saw this M38A1 CDN2 parked in front of the 12Th Service battlion in Richmond this year and snapped a few photos. You can get an idea for what you need, but sorry I don't have the measurments. Enjoy

Paul

[Mike Baker]

Originally Posted by paul53

Hi Mike,

Saw this M38A1 CDN2 parked in front of the 12Th Service battlion in Richmond this year and snapped a few photos. You can get an idea for what you need, but sorry I don't have the measurments. Enjoy

Paul

Ha ha - 12 Service is trying to pull a fast one! That vehicle isn't an M38A1 at all - it's a civilian CJ7! Could be one of the ones purchased for the Reserves as a stopgap, but definitely not an M38A1! In fact, the "85" in front of the CFR all but confirms that it was one of the stopgap CJ7s. Probably by 2000 there was nobody left at the unit who remembered the difference.

Thanks for the pics, though!

Mike

[paul53]

Mike, your correct I was mistaken I just remembered taking these photo's and when I saw your post I thought of this vehicle. My M38A1 1953 has the short bumper 54 1/4 long and I think you need the longer version approx 10 in longer, but may want to check as I was wrong before.
Well the pictures looked good anyway....

Paul

[r.morrison]

Hi Mike: I've got a 67 CDN2 sitting in the driveway. If you want, send me your email address and I'll send you pictures and measurements. My email address is...rob.mor@shaw.ca. I WOULD put it on the forum but I am somewhat a "putz" when it comes to that. Apologies to Geoff! Regards....Robert

[r.morrison]

Photos and measurements sent! Good luck...R

[Eric B]

Hello

My 1967 M38A1 has the longer bumper on it, which was the 1953 version.
It could have been a replacement for the original by DND or they used old stock when assembling it.

Personally i do not worry about it as it was that way when i bought it from DND.


Eric

[Eric B]

Here are some photos

0203 -1971
Jeep 02-1953
Picture 004 -1967
Page 208- 1971
087 -1971

Eric

[Eric B]

Hello

I took a look at my M38A1 CDN 2 . I made a mistake yesterday, It has the shorter earlier bumper on it.( Not the longer one)
The CDN 2 and 3's as per the photos came with the longer bumpers.

Thanks

Eric

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by paul53

Mike, your correct I was mistaken I just remembered taking these photo's and when I saw your post I thought of this vehicle. My M38A1 1953 has the short bumper 54 1/4 long and I think you need the longer version approx 10 in longer, but may want to check as I was wrong before.
Well the pictures looked good anyway....

Paul

I have two bumpers to measure. The M38A1 CDN3 has a bumper that is 54" long. With the CDN2 parts Jeep was a front bumper 46" long. The last owner had a CDN1 in the yard, and this part may be his take-off replacement. It you are unhappy with the one you've got, take it as a sample to the local steel dealer. It looks like rather ordinary 4" U-channel, and the counterman should be able to find catalogue stock for you.

[Mike Baker]

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

I have two bumpers to measure. The M38A1 CDN3 has a bumper that is 54" long. With the CDN2 parts Jeep was a front bumper 46" long. The last owner had a CDN1 in the yard, and this part may be his take-off replacement. It you are unhappy with the one you've got, take it as a sample to the local steel dealer. It looks like rather ordinary 4" U-channel, and the counterman should be able to find catalogue stock for you.

Unfortunately my current bumper is far from stock - it was custom made by whomever started (and never finished, thankfully) "bubbaing it up". I'm not too worried about being able to find/fabricate a new one, I just want to know the exact question you raise above - was the CDN2 stock bumper 46" or 54"?

Mike

[maple_leaf_eh]

OK, the 67 and 70 (and 71) CFRs would be 54" long. With minor exceptions, the CDN2 and 3's are alike. The 53 CFRs would be the 46" lengths.

[mel gabel]

I have both a 53 CDN and a 67 CDN2 jeep. The 53 jeep is 46 inches and the 67 is 54 inches.

[Mike Baker]

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

OK, the 67 and 70 (and 71) CFRs would be 54" long. With minor exceptions, the CDN2 and 3's are alike. The 53 CFRs would be the 46" lengths.

That's what I thought, but the RCEME parts book has diagrams claiming to be of the CDN2 but showing the short bumper, and lists the same NSN for the CDN and CDN2 bumpers.

Now if only the &%$# that started to bubba mine up hadn't welded his new offroad bumper to the frame, I would be a happy man.

Thanks for everyone's input!

[wingnut]

HI. I am almost 100% sure that only m38a1 c.d.n1 had the short bumper.
Regards Bernard.