New Brunswick FGT cab 11 - Page 2

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) · #31 10-05-07, 01:59

Hi

Juste whant to let you no the projets has begins

Bob Carriere · #32 10-05-07, 03:37

From your last BIG picture you seem to have the early heavy cast Chevrolet front axle.... which means it has no bolted front cover and a lot of extra reinforcement ribs cast into the axle housing.

The Ottawa Rotters have two of those... one on a Chev cab 13 and one on a Ford F15a........

The Caldwells have a Chev gun tractor and a Ford ab 13 GT... museum in Kars near Ottawa has what is left of an early cab 11 Chev........ and I forget his name now but someone was advertising, on the forum, a Cab 11 GT for sale in the Vineland area.... who remembers the postings...??

But it is the first time I see a Ford with both front and rear axle being from Chev...... if the axles are original you may have a very early model cab 11......

If you need to explain something or ask a complicated question in French send me a personal message on the forum and will try to help you out.

I am currently working on a Chev cab 11 and a cab 12 in the future......

The sad part Eric is that parts that you are looking for are always missing on a CMP Cab 11/12.... be patient headlights do surface every once in a while......like original side mirrors in Brasil!!!!

Don't rush..... let the addiction take it's course...soon you will be buying another one for parts.....etc.....

Welcome to CMP land.....

Bob Carriere
A.K.A. Kapt'n Nacho.........

Tony Smith · #33 10-05-07, 04:02

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Originally posted by Keith Webb
Did you also notice the Chev rear axle in the first of this batch?

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Originally posted by Cliff
Early CMP's all had Chev banjo type axles rather then the Ford ones having split type (normal Ford) axles.

That's not a Banjo (pressed steel), it's a Cast GM, and it looks like another one is in the front, too!

Tony Smith · #34 10-05-07, 04:04

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Originally posted by NORTH-SHORE(CANADA)
Hi
How do you know if the axle is Chev

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Reply by Cliff
Early CMP's all had Chev banjo type axles rather then the Ford ones having split type (normal Ford) axles

This what Ford split axles should look like (the winch on your FGT uses a Ford differential centre as its gear reduction).

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) · #35 10-05-07, 11:09

Hi

Thanks for all the information help a lot the last orner said that truc was from the miramichi army base.

So what it mean i have a early 1940 truc

how many was built in that year

and how many whit the chev axle

thx

Eric

David_Hayward (RIP) · #36 10-05-07, 11:52

I don't have Ford CMP production figures but I wonder if the Historical Adviser at Ford of Windsor does? I don't know whom it is now as Sandra Notarianni has retired. As to how many had Chevrolet front axles, well I believe, and I am probably wrong, that all 1940 Ford Gun Tractors had Chevrolet axles front and back, and all Ford F60H 6 x 4 lorries had Chevrolet front axles that year, so that leaves most of the 1940 Ford 4 x 4 lorry and truck chassis. Whatever it is an early CMP, but not the very earliest as it has cab louvres whereas the earliest did not have any ventilation holes or louvres.

Max Hedges · #37 10-05-07, 14:42

I just nticed the louvres on the cab 11 are different to those on a cab 12, to see the difference look at the 12 cab in the pass plate thread
Max

grant fincher · #38 10-05-07, 14:52

Is this the badge we are talking about?

mike mckinley · #39 10-05-07, 22:23

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Originally posted by NORTH-SHORE(CANADA)
Hi

Thanks for all the information help a lot the last orner said that truc was from the miramichi army base.

So what it mean i have a early 1940 truc how many was built in that year and how many whit the chev axle

thx

Eric

hi eric

if that truck came from new castle, then it very likely served with the North Shore N.B. Regiment. if i were you i would be hitting the legion with some photo's of your truck and asking some of the lads if they remember it...who knows, maybe one of them has pictures of it, or possibly used it then. having the history of your vehicle first hand makes it even more special. mon grandpere et deux oncles travaille don le Regt Nord Shore Nouveau brunswick 1939- 1946. pardon my french, it's not that great.

mike

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) · #40 10-05-07, 23:18

Hi

Yes that is the badge im looking for

Do you have one for me

and for mike your french is good for me

RHClarke · #41 11-05-07, 00:23

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Originally posted by mike mckinley
hi eric

if that truck came from new castle, then it very likely served with the North Shore N.B. Regiment. if i were you i would be hitting the legion with some photo's of your truck and asking some of the lads if they remember it...who knows, maybe one of them has pictures of it, or possibly used it then. having the history of your vehicle first hand makes it even more special. mon grandpere et deux oncles travaille don le Regt Nord Shore Nouveau brunswick 1939- 1946. pardon my french, it's not that great.

mike

It was not only the Nord Shore boys in the Chatham/Newcastle/Tracadie area - the Tracadie Ranges were pounded into submission by gun units of the RCA! They are still finding 25 pounder rounds popping up from the ground (even after a multi-million dollar range clean up).

mike mckinley · #42 11-05-07, 00:45

hi rob

i have seen wartime pictures of the tracadie ranges, and the ground looked like the surface of the moon.

mike

RHClarke · #43 11-05-07, 01:58

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Originally posted by mike mckinley
hi rob

i have seen wartime pictures of the tracadie ranges, and the ground looked like the surface of the moon.

mike

Mike,

All that pounding made for great blueberry crops in latter years. Ironic that the Minstry of Transport (Doug Young Minister and MP for that neck of the woods at the time) was pressured by some of the locals to close down the ranges to air to ground firing. This being done, we could no longer entice folks from Bagotville, USMC, USAF and the ANG to come play against us (birdgunners). In the end, 434 Squadron left Chatham for Shearwater and the Air Defence left Chatham just prior to its closure.

So, now the Tracadie locals have less noise to put up with, and more blueberries to munch, while Chatham/Newcastle (now Miramichi City) lost millions per year out of the local economy.

More Liberal logic...

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) · #44 11-05-07, 02:13

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Originally posted by mike mckinley
hi rob

i have seen wartime pictures of the tracadie ranges, and the ground looked like the surface of the moon.

mike

Hi mike

Do you still have the pic of it is it ww2 pic? if yes that will be interesting to see

mike mckinley · #45 11-05-07, 02:18

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Originally posted by RHClarke
Mike,

All that pounding made for great blueberry crops in latter years. Ironic that the Minstry of Transport (Doug Young Minister and MP for that neck of the woods at the time) was pressured by some of the locals to close down the ranges to air to ground firing. This being done, we could no longer entice folks from Bagotville, USMC, USAF and the ANG to come play against us (birdgunners). In the end, 434 Squadron left Chatham for Shearwater and the Air Defence left Chatham just prior to its closure.

So, now the Tracadie locals have less noise to put up with, and more blueberries to munch, while Chatham/Newcastle (now Miramichi City) lost millions per year out of the local economy.

More Liberal logic...

interesting.....on another point, i have come to realize that the only word to preceed or follow the word liberal is latrine.

monseur eric...i'll see if i still have them

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) · #46 11-05-07, 03:14

Hi

Anyone have somme mirroir for me

or where i could fin somme

and what is the price for those mirroir

and stil looking for the light and ford logo

RHClarke · #47 11-05-07, 04:02

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Originally posted by mike mckinley
interesting.....

For those who have more than a passing interest about CFB Chatham, CFS St Margarets and the Tracadie Ranges, I highly recommend Col A.M. Lee's book Chatham An Airfield History ISBN 0-9691253-4-8

Col Murray Lee was the Base Commander when he wrote this book. His good sense of humour (having an army unit on an air base - one would require one) and sense of fair play won my respect. I treasure my autographed copy of his book, which reminds me of some mischief pulled when I "retired" - a story for some other day...

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) · #48 11-05-07, 10:43

Hi

On that pic you could see where my truc came frome not far from the basse

Alex Blair (RIP) · #49 11-05-07, 14:27

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Originally posted by RHClarke
For those who have more than a passing interest about CFB Chatham, CFS St Margarets and the Tracadie Ranges, I highly reommend Col A.M. Lee's book Chatham An Airfield History ISBN 0-9691253-4-8

Col Murray Lee was the Base Commander when he wrote this book. His good sense of humour (having an army unit on an air base - one would require one) and sense of fair play won my respect. I treasure my autographed copy of his book, which reminds me of some mischief pulled when I "retired" - a story for some other day...

RH

Did I make the book???
I'll have to read it and see...
416 SQN was there at the time,and 434 SQN did close it down...How sad...

chris vickery · #50 11-05-07, 15:52

Bienvenue, North Shore!

I sent you a PM regarding the square badge for your hood.

Mac`s Auto Parts in NY has them, although they are listed as a trunk lid emblem from a mid 1930`s coupe I believe. I don`t have my Mac`s book handy as I am currently in N. Quebec. When I get back south I will look it up with some contact info.

I occasionally come across items such as the lights, brackets and various other cmp parts that you may be looking for.
Don`t panic, as items will come available. Do the smart thing and buy stuff up as it comes, otherwise you may regret passing them up.

There are a few gun tractors restored here in Ontario that I am sure you could get pics and dimensions from. There is one that was at the last get together in Chatworth, ON that had been restored and had the entire rear body reproduced. Maybe worth a trip to Ontario sometime...

Alex Blair (RIP) · #51 11-05-07, 16:05

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Originally posted by chris vickery
Bienvenue, North Shore!

There is one that was at the last get together in Chatworth, ON that had been restored and had the entire rear body reproduced. Maybe worth a trip to Ontario sometime...

Hi Chris..
Yep..That was an 11 cab gun tractor and a beauty,.,,
Walter Brand out of Petrolia owns that one...
Better than new..
There should be some pix of it around MLU..I'll check it out.

chris vickery · #52 11-05-07, 16:48

Yep, Alex, thats the one I`m talking about.
I`m terrible with names and always forget that fellow.
I know he did excellent work on his truck and fabricated much of the body for it.
Maybe Walter will have it up again at CC6?

mike mckinley · #53 11-05-07, 17:03

heree are two pics of albert baines/ walter brand's 11cab tractor. i'm think these pics were taken by the caldwells, so the credit goes to them www.bmts.com/~caldwell

mike mckinley · #54 11-05-07, 17:03

here is another one...superb

RHClarke · #55 11-05-07, 20:47

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Originally posted by Alex Blair
RH

Did I make the book???
I'll have to read it and see...
416 SQN was there at the time,and 434 SQN did close it down...How sad...

Alex,

No specific mention of any Blair activity in the book, but the local sherriff remembers a toublemaker by that name...As a point of interest, my father was posted to St Maggies. My brother and I ran a roadside bait shop selling night crawlers. Business was good, but the customers (being airmen with way too much time on their hands either fished or golfed or both) were always complaining about holes dug in the fairways...

Alex Blair (RIP) · #56 11-05-07, 21:15

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Originally posted by RHClarke
Alex,

No specific mention of any Blair activity in the book, but the local sherriff remembers a toublemaker by that name...As a point of interest, my father was posted to St Maggies. My brother and I ran a roadside bait shop selling night crawlers. Business was good, but the customers (being airmen with way too much time on their hands either fished or golfed or both) were always complaining about holes dug in the fairways...

RH
Did the sherriff tell you about the night he locked me in his jail and my motorcycle in the firehouse ajoining the local hoosgow..??
What did he expect from a thirsty,horney 20 year old airman with too much time on his hands ...There was no fishing and golfing for this kid..I was spending my time wisely..
If your dad was there in '64 we probably met in St Maggies mess..depending on what rank he was...tHe airmans mess was the place to be...
especially on lobster and dime beer night..
Ahhhhhhh the good old days..

Grant Bowker · #57 11-05-07, 21:43

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Originally posted by Alex Blair
What did he expect from a thirsty,horney 20 year old airman with too much time on his hands ... I was spending my time wisely.

Alex,

You should have known better than to chase the sherriff's daughter.

Grant

Alex Blair (RIP) · #58 11-05-07, 21:55

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Originally posted by Grant Bowker
Alex,

You should have known better than to chase the sherriff's daughter.

Grant

It was his wife...if you must know...
No sense of humour..

mike mckinley · #59 11-05-07, 22:52

things are so much clearer now...because i always wondered where eric clapton got the idea for the song I Shot The Sherriff......but Alex...what did you do to the deputy

mike

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) · #60 12-05-07, 02:59

Hi

Project stil on the go and well protected