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Old 25-07-08, 01:21
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Excellent, I can have a look at it in the flesh then
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Old 25-07-08, 10:28
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Good stuff Colin,it would be nice to see it.
I dont think i would have any chance of having mine there though!.
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Old 28-07-08, 09:03
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I finished my tailshaft last night and put it in position. It is an old ford truck tailshaft. I machined an adapter plate with a centre hole to take the female spline and welded it in. (transmission end). I also machined a big plate with a 6mm recess so the original 8 bolt plate sits in (for centralization). That plate is welded to the other end of the tailshaft. Also the engine is in as well.
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Old 28-07-08, 17:52
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Strewth, Col, this project just get's Sexier by the minute! I like how you've used a C4 auto, because there are adapter kits to mate a Sidevalve to the C4, although you may need to re-fabricate mounts for the Flatty. (Nothing sounds as good as a Sidevalve!)
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Old 28-07-08, 20:11
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I finished my tailshaft last night and put it in position. It is an old ford truck tailshaft. I machined an adapter plate with a centre hole to take the female spline and welded it in. (transmission end). I also machined a big plate with a 6mm recess so the original 8 bolt plate sits in (for centralization). That plate is welded to the other end of the tailshaft. Also the engine is in as well.
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Col..being a mechanic/welder/electrician/gas fitter/and general wrench,I know good work when I see it..The only improvement I could comment on would to be offsetting your motormounts to reduce the drive angle on your drive shaft..
At 200MPH that old drive shaft will be under quite an axis load..
Reminds me of my youth,trying to come up with a transmission that would stand up to my 361 CI 1959 Edsel V-8..normal Ford transmissions would clean the cluster gears off like butter..Finally mated it up with a '54 Mercury truck transmission..four speed..
Taking off in second gear or even third gear in a cloud of smoke was normal...Had the .'54 yoke on one end of the driveshaft and a '59 Ford rear end matching yoke on the other end....so anything is possible..
Keep at 'er..I'm following your thread with great interest..
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Old 29-07-08, 01:22
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Hey Alex. Just thought you might like this. www.arvimotors.com
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Old 31-07-08, 17:14
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Hey Alex. Just thought you might like this. www.arvimotors.com
Ty..
Love your work...I am an Edsel fan since they hit the street in '58...The only model I ever built was a '58 Edsel convertible..
The 361 Edsel engine I had came out of a burned out American '59 station wagon..
We put it in a 1958 Ford four door sedan,an old taxi(Got it cheep) pink and white..
Nothing to indicate what it had in it for a mill but talk about power..The original six Ford engine was replaced but the 6 transmission hooked right up to the Edsel bell housing..
That transmission lasted about a week..chewed the cluster round on one burn...but we then tried a v8 Ford transmission..a little better ..lasted two weeks..Then the '54 Mercury truck four speed transmission was the only thing we could keep in it..
Had to change the rear end to a V8 one from the six 'cause we chewed that up too..

It seems we were allways changing something or other to get the correct spline configuration..
Changed the jets in the four barrel....it had 73's in the,primary and 69's in the secondary...(I think...it's been 45 years)..
Really liked the smoke show on the web site..Took me back a long time..Thanks.



But it was a smoker..Used to go through those cheep Canadian tire two plys in about a week..
But those were the days..for ever under the hood or changing rear ends or transmissions..Knew every scrap yard on the east coast..
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Thats how a guy learns how to use wrenches.
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Old 29-07-08, 01:26
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Hi and thanks Tony, as much as it would be nice to have a wonderful underpowered great sounding side valve, a couple of extra horses would be really handy. I'm a bit excited cause its gettin' close to trials but I'm busier than a one legged arse kicker at the moment. If I had full dedicated time on it, I reckon I would be driving it within a week but work comes first. Also I don't mind the sound of a well tuned, tuned length exhaust, good old 351ci. But I know where you're comin' from.
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G'day Alex, I did look at offsetting the engine and trans, but its only 9deg and there's been a few friday nights that i've been on greater angles that that and still operated without breakin' my uni joints so I have great confidence it will be o.k. There's not much room in the engine bay either, but hell it's great fun achieving something like this and thanks for your comments
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Old 31-07-08, 15:20
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Love your work Colin, if you manage to get her to Corowa next year I hope to get a good look over.
Your decision not to angle the power pack was wise, because 9 deg is bugger all, as long as the crank/output shaft are on the same linear "plane' as the diff pinion shaft. To angle the engine/gearbox toward the diff to reduce the shaft angle would only have introduced a nasty shake through the hull at speed because the tailshaft would have been "out of phase". Crank bolt & output shaft centres should be equal-distant from the hull side. You probably have already done this, but make sure the crank centre bolt & centre of your output shaft are equal-distant from the hull floor for the same reason. The carrier pinion shaft enters the hull level with the floor & hull side..

I see you have solved some of the engineering problems I was scratching my head about on my replica Vickers, such as how to re-attach track guards etc.. but I am wondering, have you, in the past, mounted the engine mounts direct on the floor before? I was considering it, but was worried about torque flexing the floor plate, and had decided to install the engine/gearbox in a cradle, attached to the floor and hull sides. Is this how a 2pdr engine mounts are normally mounted?

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