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Old 28-01-09, 11:03
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David the 30k figure came direct from the seller i have a copy of the email if its required.

I have to be the sour puss here guys, i think you would be a fool to pay 30k for a carrier, more so in todays economic climate, people just dont have that kind of spare cash lying around now, and the economy is going to get worse over the next two years, we in england will never fully recover from the recession all be it that it will get a bit better than it is now. in my area there as been in excess of 20K people made redundant. large firms are folding left right and center.
i suppose it is a buyers market for carriers, (if you want one cheap) as folk need money.

i really hope this guy gets the 30K he wants, but i was always told at the very begining when looking for a carrier "dont pay more than 17K for a US or Canadian one" and "dont pay more than 25K for a fully restored good quality British carrier" this person has many carriers but shall remain nameless.

looking at Robs old carrier it is nice yes, but it is what we used to refer to classic cars as a "Bitser" in other words its built up from bits of other vehicles ie not original and by Robs own admissions the carrier certainly has no provinence to active WW2 fighting service the guys name is Chris ? if this helps ID the owner

i am new to all this guys so if i am way off base i appologise, i meerly compare this situation to experiences with the classic motor trade where provinence and originality is everything and makes the difference from a 40k price tag to a 4k price tag.

cheers folks

Ps my comments are not intended to cause any offence to anyone who are restoring / own carriers or any MV.


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Old 28-01-09, 14:36
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I sure wouldn't throw bids on it just to get my name out there as one of the temporary high bidders and would also caution others against it. Just meant in the other post that it does happen and will artificially inflate the perceived market value of an item if it didn't make reserve. And wouldn't you be surprised if you bid below the presumed reserve and you saw the bidder status that reserve had been met

Richard has been doing the right thing. He knows what he is looking for after all of these months and has researched prices and the factors he'd encounter with shipping from North America to the UK. Hold out and find the project vehicle that is right for you. It's out there waiting.

Doing your own restoration, even if you farm segments of the work you can't do yourself out to a shop, will be more satisfying in the end. Rob's got the progression of stages down pretty good. Lots of highs and lows spread out over time. Works out better in the end since it gives you time for your busted knuckles, cuts and scratches to heal up.
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Old 28-01-09, 14:39
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I agree that 30K is nuts, and for a bitster at that. But the buyer doesn't know it's a bitster, and it is presented as a complete unit which has seen war service. No offense to the ebay sellers on this forum, but this seems to be par for the course when it comes to ebay.

The recession may take some of the guys out of the game, but there are still lots of guys out there with too much money. Quite frankly, in my neck of the woods, nobody I know has lost their jobs, and the only reason I know that something is going on is because gas is half the price it used to be. Otherwise, if I hadn't read about in in the newspapers, I wouldn't know it existed.

I see the old girl has now crossed $15,000. Still a long way to go to reach that reserve.
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Old 28-01-09, 15:04
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dave the wreck that sold a little while back was one of the "got to have it for my project" deals. some german unit from the peoples republic of CA. are building a 39 ford truck and want to make a tracked truck out of it. it was going to sell for what ever the asking price was. i met the guys (nice guys) when they were going to pick it up.
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Old 28-01-09, 15:44
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Hey Dave, I know the impulse buyer types well. Reminds me of our mutual friend who buys the golden jeeps. Bet those guys on the left coast wish they had waited for that last cut-down but running carrier for their project. Would have been a much easier conversion.

Guess you survived the latest Texas ice storm since you are posting early this morning. We only got a quarter inch of ice here overnight but it will be shorts and short sleeves weather again by tomorrow afternoon. Good thing since I have some things to paint outside this weekend.
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'44 Airborne 100-Gallon Water Bowser Trailer
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Old 28-01-09, 17:47
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had to go and chip the ice off the other halfs truck, she is from NSW and so not used to advers weather. the thing was about the other carrier was that they already had a running ford truck and so didnt even take the motor of the one they got. they hualed it back to CA with a light trailer and a F150.

yea about golden jeep boy, how many $3000+ data plates has he got now?

does he still have his $20,000 project T-16? it will look good if it ever gets finished.

stop up some time, i have added about 75 new british items to the store.
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Old 28-01-09, 17:54
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He hasn't started work on either of his T-16 projects. But he did buy another jeep to scavange parts from.
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'41 Willys MB British Airborne Jeep
'42 Excelsior Welbike Mark I
'42 BSA M20 Motorcycle
'43 BSA Folding Military Bicycle
'43 BSA M20 Motorcycle
'44 Orme-Evans Airborne Trailer No. 1 Mk. II
'44 Airborne 100-Gallon Water Bowser Trailer
'44 Ford T-16 Universal Carrier
'44 Jowett Cars 4.2-Inch Towed Mortar
'44 Daimler Scout Car Mark II
'45 Studebaker M29C Weasel
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Old 29-01-09, 03:12
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My old carrier has been withdrawn from sale on E-bay. Sold elsewhere perhaps?
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