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Old 22-03-09, 02:14
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When you have the time, can you tell us all how you went about the rivetting ??

What method you employed .. it looks very neat I must say. And, where did you obtain the rivets. Were they made locally by a friendly machinist ?

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Old 22-03-09, 02:29
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What method you employed .. it looks very neat I must say. And, where did you obtain the rivets. Were they made locally by a friendly machinist ?

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There is a chap that always has a stall at the Swapmeets around Sydney, and he frequently advertises in the restoration magazines:
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Old 22-03-09, 05:14
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The majority of the rivets i used were pre formed with a tapered head
The first one tony showed would have been better but i took the ones i could find
I made the longer 1/2 inch ones as i could not buy them
I used a block of cast (old tractor weight)drilled to the right depth and cut the rod to the depth plus about the diameter of the rod ,heat head only and peaned and mandrelled head to shape

I made up several different length backing bars with the head machined to take the shape of the rivet head
very important to have a tight ,solid backer when driving and forming the opposite head as any movement at all will result in a loose rivet caused by the flexing on the opposing side

I made up a forming bar using a jackhammer tip and machined the curve to suit the size rivet head you want to form.These have good hardened steel on the impact end

I found you get it into postion and wedge in solidly .
Then cut the rivet to length ,About 1/2 inch for 1/2 inch rivets and generally 1/2 inch for the 3/8 rivets as they seemed to need more to fill the voids on the initial strikes
Then begin heating the entire rivet as much as possible .Very important on the first hits as it allows the whole shank to swell into the cavities when driven
The first series of hits i drove directly on to the end until it filled the hole gaps might take several heating turns

Once this was done reheat and i formed a rough head with the ball pein of the hammer trying to get as uniform as possible . This cut down a lot of time doing the actual head forming cycles

Reheat then using the forming bar strike directly then slight circular motions to form a uniform curved head .This may take several reheatings till you get a uniform head pattern and a nice ,tight flat face against the metalwork you are trying to rivet together

I also made up a set of large clamping backing pliers to hold the rivets where I couldnt get a backing bar wedged in to
Even this needed some additional wedging to stop the strike vibration loosening the rivet head

Rest day today as the wrists ,elbows and eyes copped a smashing yesterday
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Old 22-03-09, 10:57
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Andrew - that is dedication to originality. Very well done.

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Old 22-03-09, 11:48
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Did a rivet count tonight. There is 17 on the c8 chassis and 52 on the c60l chassis
Also did a few experimental ones and stuffed up a few

Once set up with half a clue it Took about 8 hours to do 40 by myself

Reasonably happy with how they came out

Definately keep the number of the rivet guy Tony posted if any more come up
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Old 22-03-09, 22:29
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G'day Andrew see you've been busy lately.

I'm in the process of getting a F15 chassis ready to put a cab 12 on it.

I think I have all the parts I need from the chev cab 12 so if you are down this way we'll meet up sometime to see what bits you need.

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Old 25-03-09, 02:02
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Would be great if you could run a half day workshop and charge a fee ... a few of us would be interested ... but distance is against us.

Again, well done on your innovative restoring skills.
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