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Old 24-03-09, 19:26
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Thanks Cliff and Keith for the info, I'll take you up on your offer Cliff as to what shade of Khaki green, to the mixed humbrol formula. I'll pm you.
Also great scale model Cliff, like the dirt.
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Old 24-03-09, 21:11
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Thanks Cliff and Keith for the info, I'll take you up on your offer Cliff as to what shade of Khaki green, to the mixed humbrol formula. I'll pm you.
Also great scale model Cliff, like the dirt.
PM sent with ALL the Aussie paint colour formula using Humbrol model paints as formulated & researched by Mike Cecil from the AWM. I'd use the pre 1942 service green which I am picking was used up to the end of 1942 or when stocks ran out.

Here is the formula for anybody else that wants it.Note the two shades of Service Green - Pre & Post 1942


Australian Army WW2 paint colors

All Humbrol paints unless noted


POST 1942 green

10 parts #150 – matt Forest Green
02 parts #100 – matt red brown
01 part #33 – matt black

PRE 1942 green

11 parts #10 – service brown
06 parts #2 – emerald green

ASCW light Earth (FS33440)Aussie Mud colour

3 parts Revell 380
1 part #34 – matt white


OR (this is the one I use)

6 parts #94 – matt brown yellow
1 part #159 – matt khaki drab

Light Stone

8 parts #74 - matt linen
1 part #26 – matt khaki

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Old 25-03-09, 01:08
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If you have the time, could you maybe post all of the colour formulas from Mike C's research . I've actually seen the original Aust. wartime booklet of camo colour chips ..two copies of these rare booklets turned up and one was passed on to Mike at the AWM. The booklets are in the form of a smallish notebook with each colour chip devoted to a page ..dated around 43 from memory . They were found by a civilian VMVC club member who works for the dept. of defense ( or whatever it's called now ) here in Melbourne, a storeroom cleanout unearthed the rarities.
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Old 25-03-09, 02:17
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Hi Wayne - my two bobs worth is Khaki Green No. 3 and Light Stone. These are the two colours I use for this era. If interested I can send you paint swatches. I utilise a paint company called Protec Paints who prepare the paint in their laboratory from my samples.

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Old 25-03-09, 03:00
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I utilise a paint company called Protec Paints who prepare the paint in their laboratory from my samples.

Bob
Now isn't that funny! Protec Paints are the current suppliers to the ADF, and their Mil Enamel has some excellent properties. Scroll down and read the specs for oil proofness and weather resistance! Unfortunately, their Mil paint only comes in 5 shades; Green, Black, Tan, Pilbara red, and Desert Tan. Their "Tan" and "Desert Tan" are not quite right for BSC 61 Light Stone or BSC 64 Portland Stone, and I asked if they would colour match a batch if I provided a sample?
No, they wouldn't.
What, not at all?
Well yes, but for a minimum 2000 litres.

Maybe that was just for the Mil Spec 065/1 paint? Anybody willing to form a syndicate to order 2000lts of Khaki No3 and 2000lts of Light Stone?

Protec's HQ are in SA, but they have branches all around the country:

Adelaide, SA
97 -105 Bedford St
Gillman SA 5013
(08) 8447 6311

Welshpool, WA
87 Welshpool Rd
Ph(08) 9351 8727

Malaga, WA
38 Truganina Rd
(08) 9248 6400

Minto, NSW
111 Airds Rd
Minto NSW 2566
(02) 9603 5655

Hornsby, NSW
14 James St
Hornsby NSW 2077
(02) 9477 1444

Thornbury, Vic
2 Sheppard St
Thornbury VIC 3071
(03) 9416 6900

Dandenong, Vic
409 Hammond Rd
Dandenong VIC 3175
(03) 9794 0826

Ballarat, Vic
Fcty 2/ 16 Wiltshire La
(03) 5336 4879

Rocklea, Qld
35 Collinsvale St
Rocklea QLD 4106
(07) 3274 1188

Geebung, Qld
473 Newman Rd
Geebung QLD 4034
(07) 3216 5895

Townsville, Qld
33 Bolam St (cnr Langton St)
Garbutt QLD 4814
(07) 4775 7933

Darwin, NT
11 Catterthun St
Winnellie NT 0820
(08) 8947 1433
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Old 25-03-09, 03:18
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Hi Tony - I have used the Adelaide outlet, address listed by you for nearly ten years. I have no trouble getting the paint or the exact colour I want and usually buy in 2x4ltr lots.

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Old 25-03-09, 03:20
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Bob, is that for their 342- series enamels?
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If you have the time, could you maybe post all of the colour formulas from Mike C's research .
Mike
Mike those are all that I have. If there is more I'd like them for my records as well.
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Old 25-03-09, 03:30
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And just to illustrate the modern combinations to compare with the WW2 patterns:

1. Cam Green, Tan, and Black,

2. Cam Green, Tan, and Pilbara Brown,

3. Cam Green, Tan, and Desert Tan.
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Old 25-03-09, 03:32
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Tony - I use the 304 Equipment Enamel and get the lab to make the paint to a satin finish. I use the same series paint on my instrument panel restorations.

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Old 25-03-09, 10:00
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Thanks Bob and Tony.
Yes Bob, most Perth restorers of MV's use Protec Paints for the very same reason. The Camo green is a great colour and 307 mixed as a satin is far better than the old lusterless green used years ago, doesn't mark if you touch it with a greasy finger, and the areosol cans are great for touch ups.

I have taken painted nos Ferret parts to the Welshpool store and had 12 litres matched up. The store in Malaga offers the same service.

Tony, Protec here in Perth match any colour in any amount and at under $40 for 4 litres of 304 equipment enamel. Maybe a sanctioned border raid is in order.

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Old 25-03-09, 10:20
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Ahh, but I was thinking of the 342 series enamels. Low gloss and you can DIP IT in oil for 24hrs, and it won't show a mark!

As for primer, you can't go past their "Etch Pro"!
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