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Old 21-05-09, 12:11
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Hi Alex Pedr & rob,
I was talking of a one piece truck sump that has the rectangular cover plate, the problem, is caused by the bolts that hold this plate in place with the bolt heads resting on the carrier floor and not allowing the engine to settle down on its mounts therefore ithe engine is not fully supported on its mounts, and as I said earlier its very easy to rock the engine from side to side,not exactly the ideal situation,simply change the sump and its all go from there,
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Old 01-06-10, 05:20
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I thought I would follow up with what I had to do to get this engine to fit into the carrier nicely. The pan was way too deep to fit, as others noted. I cut the bottom 1-1/2" off the pan and welded on a flat plate of tin to re-close it. I also welded on a drain plug in the correct position for a carrier.

During installation, it became evident that the engine still was not going to fit in place. I am using the cast bell housing adapter, and it also hit the floor. I solved this by grinding away some of the lower bell housing, and also by removing about 4" of the strip of metal that runs underneath it on the floor of the carrier. The engine fit's like a glove now. I also installed the early carrier exhaust manifolds so that I could keep the exhaust stock.

Other problems are that the carrier generator/fan will not work with the later water pumps, as the later pumps are too far forward. The reason for this is because of the raised timing gear cover which allows the distributor to be placed on top of the engine. By what I have read, the early pumps and distributor can be installed on this later engine by changing the cam to the earlier one, along with the timing cover which would accept the front distributor. The coolant bypass holes at the top of the later pump must be tapped and plugged, then the early water pumps can be installed.

This engine is just a temporary fix to get my carrier running this summer, and I will rebuild the original carrier engine through the winter. Perhaps next summer I will further modify this 8BA engine as described above to make it appear as an early version. I'll keep it for a spare. I believe it is possible to also modify the oil passages over to full flow so as to allow the oil cooler to be hooked up.
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