M38a1Cdn2, M38A1Cdn3 and M151A2 CFR range

[Craig S.]

Since your data includes workorders, I am assuming you are using a Loomis/plan expert archive. The database I was using was the DSVPM site on the intranet. It does not go into nearly the detail you have.

The info I've given here comes from EDR Viewer Production. It is where the majority of info I could find in regards to the old CAR numbers and modern CFR numbers come from. I have come across a few other types of info, but it's more along the lines of cost analysis for each piece of equipment over that equipments lifetime, parts cost, REL's, literature, etc. So far I can only find the parent units of the equipment but not the end user say, ie. I would know that LSVW 93-99770 belonged to L-Coy,2 RCR, but not that it was the MRT for Components Section of Maintenance Pl., C/S 88U. C/S's are not registered on any of the database records I've found. In the maintenance world we deal in CFR's whereas the Infanteers know the vehicles by the actual c/s. The database also goes by the vehicle CFR and then you have to look at each to get the Serial Number of that vehicle, which means sometimes going through each one to get it. There may be some way to do it by Serial Number, but I haven't found out how.
Lately I have begun to copy complete listings of older SMP vehicles I can by years, CFR's, ECC, etc. At least then I can relatively check a CFR for as an example,CFR#37735. It turns out that it is a "1978 Truck,Cargo, MLVW,2.5 Ton, U.S. Army, M-35". This is the only one for that year and judging by what little info there is and the "X" prefix to the ERN, I am thinking it was a evaluation model for what we based our MLVW's on as we know them.

Can you work your magic on this CFR - 67-07800?

Here is what I can find -
1967 07800 M38A1CDN2
Serial Number 7105-96847
Acquired 01 Jan 67
Original UIC was CFB/ASU Montreal
It also states that on the same date it became an asset of LETE(Land Engineering Test Establishment)
30 May 1985 it was VMO'd to 25 CFSD
28 Oct 1986 a VMO No DP357374 for disposal was cut
Disposal date of 11 Jan 1988 for $2692.00 is stated and the last holding notice was 10 Feb 1988 as serviceable.

There is no information as to Work Orders at all and that may be due to it's LETE heritage. Test bed for modifications perhaps? Judging by the sale price it sounds like it was kept in better condition than most. Wouldn't it be great to get all the actual mechanics paperwork from the inspections and other records that follow the vehicles until they leave a unit? Unfortunately I'm guessing they end up in a blue recycle bin nowadays.
My apologies for the long winded explanation, but this will give you some info on how this info is kept and also I guess, discarded. Cheers.

[Retsarge]

Hi,
On the American M38A1 jeeps, there is a data plate located on the wheelwell directly behind the passenger's seat. Is there also supposed to be one on the Canadian Cdn2 jeeps as well? If yes, how does it read..Kaiser..Willys.. or what? Thanks

Richard M
M38A1Cdn2
CFR 67-07832

[rob love]

Originally Posted by Retsarge

Hi,
On the American M38A1 jeeps, there is a data plate located on the wheelwell directly behind the passenger's seat. Is there also supposed to be one on the Canadian Cdn2 jeeps as well? If yes, how does it read..Kaiser..Willys.. or what? Thanks

Richard M
M38A1Cdn2
CFR 67-07832

On a Cdn 2 it was Kaiser of Windsor. I likely have one floating about in the shed, I'll confirm today.

[Retsarge]

Rob,
If indeed you do have a data plate in your shed, and it is a spare, and you are willing to part with it. I would love to put one back, on my jeep, and fill an empty spot. Let me know how much you want for it, and I will send it to you. Thanks

Richard M
M38A1Cdn2
CFR 67-07832

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by Retsarge

Rob,
If indeed you do have a data plate in your shed, and it is a spare, and you are willing to part with it. I would love to put one back, on my jeep, and fill an empty spot. Let me know how much you want for it, and I will send it to you. Thanks

Richard M
M38A1Cdn2
CFR 67-07832

There was a fellow at a OMVA show in Ottawa two yrs ago with a whole library of different blank data plates. I think it was Brian Asbury.

[Eric B]

My 1967 M38A1 Cdn has SN 7105-97372 with a of CFR 67-08105. It was a signals vehicle in Petawawa, then Kingston. I have the holding unit history only.

According to the copy of the page printout there should also be a
modification history, rebuild history, vmo history, work order history, ECC history and CFR No history.

My M151A2 is SN 44004 CFR 74-09235. It was used as a signals vehicle in Calgary and then moved to Petawawa. I know no other data for this vehicle.
The original data plate has the contract number printed onto it.Therefore if you buy a repro plate you will have to stamp this in. These are avilable out of the USA. I do not beleive that Brian Asbury has these in stock.

I also came across a photo of an M151A2 with a CFR of 63558, which i drove at CFB Valcartier. I beleive it was a Montreal district pool vehicle or a Black Watch (RHR) of Canada Unit vehicle.

It had the 5/4 ton style tires on it rather than the US non directionals.

Thanks
Eric

[Eric B]

Hello again

I was referring to the M151A2 data plates. Brian Asbury did have copies of the CDN M38A1 CDN 1 and 2 data plate sets fo sale. I have a set for when i rebuild mine.

Thanks

Eric

[servicepub (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Craig S.

It also states that on the same date it became an asset of LETE(Land Engineering Test Establishment)

This actually had "LETE" painted, albeit very faded, on front and rear bumpers. The jeep appears to have all of the modification screw-holes drilled, including those for the GPMG mount, LAW M-72 mount, decontamination bottle, radios, etc....
Thnx for the info.
Clive