CMP Value

[Phil Waterman]

The bumper is no big deal, the brush bar in front of the grill will take more time to find or fabricate. Along with the D towing rings though there are more of the D rings around then number of good trucks. If this truck spent much of this life on this farm ask the farmer has a scrap pile amazing what has been found in some farm scrap piles.

Keep us posted.

Cheers Phil

[huxley]

Are original beds rare or generally available?

I know on WCs & CCKWs in the states most were cast off and other farm or industrial job-specific bodies added.

I seem to recall Rob Fast telling me that all the radio and ambulance boxes ended up as chicken coops!

H

[Grant Bowker]

Many CMP bodies were also removed, either to mount something of higher capacity or because the body was wanted for another use. I have recently seen a Derrick body that would suit a 134" wheelbase CMP in the Toronto area that looked to be in reasonable condition (some work needed, but a good starting point). Freight would be a consideration. To finish the build you would need to find and add a winch to the frame you are looking at.

[huxley]

Another question came up in my feeble mind. If this is in fact a F60 it should have 20" wheels, yes? Has anyone gone back down to the 16" wheels to cut weight, overall ride height, tire/tube/liner cost, etc. No clearance problems?

I fear this 60cwt truck is overkill for my needs... even after shortening to 134" wheelbase.

Cheers!

H

[Grant Bowker]

I know people have put 20" rims onto the lighter trucks that originally had 16" rims. I don't know of anyone who has done what you suggest. I suspect there could be interference between the brake drum and wheel, but don't know this for sure. If you want, I can try to figure out the brake drum size tonight when I get home if nobody can tell us first hand that it either works or does not.

[huxley]

Thanks Grant!

But it is not an issue at this time... I am still blue skying this project.

[Phil Waterman]

Hi

There are some of the 60 series that have the smaller brake drums to use the 16" which are 8 lugs these trucks will take either 16" or 20" see picture of my C60L during change over. The 16" wheel brake drums backing plates on those trucks measure approximately 16 1/2 diameter while the 20" wheel brake backing plates are 17 1/2". The 16" wheels don't fit the larger drums I tried.

Difference in wheel size had to do with use truck, weight and date of production. I've heard that the smaller tires were also used to save on rubber and to make some vehicles like ambulances, easier to load. Also the smaller diameter tires would deliver significantly more torque to the ground at the expense of speed. This would explain their use for towing anti-aircraft guns. From experience with my C60L the torque makes shifting out of 1st gear difficult but use of 1st is also limited. With the 16" wheels you can expect to be pasted by people on bicycles.