C8 data plate

[cletrac (RIP)]

I found a well deteriorated original canvas cover for a 1B1 off a C8 and this is the stuff they had for windows. There's 32 threads per inch and the material is stiffer than canvas but it is cloth and it seemed to be a lighter green than the canvas. The piece in the pic is about 2 inches by 2 inches.

[cletrac (RIP)]

I traded away my spare 1A2 and loaded it on a semi heading to Ontario. Before letting it go I had to remove the POW carrier. The early 1A2s had one taillight with the POW carrier on the opposite back corner. If you were loading up for a mission in North Africa how would you decide whether to take petrol, oil, or water? The later 1A2s had two taillights so wouldn't have a POW holder. I guess you'd find a few empty spaces to hold a few extra cans.
The spare box had all the radio mounting holes but just holes to mount two seats. (my good one uses three seats) The POW carrier didn't look big enough to hold one of the cans so I checked the fit. Looks can be deceiving since the can fits.
In the pics the carrier is sitting on my 2B1s fender.

[david moore]

David
Re the C8 pictures you showed - did you get a close-up of the spare wheel holder? I have to make one up for my F8. The books show the spare wheel at the back left - or was that just for the radio version?

I note that your pics show that the upper part of the lidded containers have been removed?

The one box seat that came with my truck was in the rearmost position facing right.

Regarding the cab rear window frame - mine had the moulding on the outside with a rather crude flat sheet metal "frame" on the inside.

Last point - my body number is 48 ( 411AC 48 actually) and my del. date is 11/7/41 which I still maintain is 11th November not (US style) 7th July!

[david moore]

I meant to say 11th July!
Also extra pic of my box as found- couldn't add two pics at once!

[cletrac (RIP)]

David,
I checked out a few 1B1 boxes and got these pics. The first pic shows the spare tire mounting holes on the cabinet in the wireless version. You can see the marks where the spare wore the paint. Obviously the other versions wouldn't use this setup since they didn't have the cabinets.
The other two pics show a GS version but I don't know where the tire mounted. Both versions had those eight or so holes in the front of the box. I'm not sure what that strap on the footman loop held in place on the GS.
Is that the same rear window as yours? If yours has a rear seat it must be a wireless or personnel version. Does it have the copper grounding straps on all the body panels that the wireless trucks have?
I looked at your pics and yours is the radio truck. Only the radio version had those boxes with the lids on top of the wheel wells.

[Rob Fast]

Hello David. My C8 restoration is underway and although my rear shock absorbers are there, the correct lower mounts are gone. I am not sure what correct might be? Do have a pic? I could transfer the mounts in the attached pic from my C15 2 wheel drive over to the C8 but don't know if that would be correct. Thanks Rob

[cletrac (RIP)]

Rob,
Here's the C8 bracket. It looks to be a couple of inches longer than the C15 one and the shock mounts differently. The rear end is like a half ton uses so I checked a 46 chassis at the bottom of the yard but they're nothing the same. Being a casting, it seems you'll just have to add them to your parts needed list.

[Mike K]

Originally Posted by cletrac

I found a well deteriorated original canvas cover for a 1B1 off a C8 and this is the stuff they had for windows. There's 32 threads per inch and the material is stiffer than canvas but it is cloth and it seemed to be a lighter green than the canvas. The piece in the pic is about 2 inches by 2 inches.

The window mesh on British 8 cwts was apparently a woven brass material , or copper .
Mike

[Alex van de Wetering]

The window mesh on British 8 cwts was apparently a woven brass material , or copper .
Mike

Mike, that's an interesting subject you mention here and one that has been keeping me busy for a while now.
I have seen pics of a beautiful Humber 8cwt restored and fitted with a canvas sporting mesh windows. I also read that mesh is the original material used in WW2 window canvas.

But, does anyone know the story behind the mesh? I mean....they had clear plastic back then...as was used in cab side curtains. So, was mesh used on all trucks which had "windows" in their canvas? Was it a temporary feature of some canvas suppliers who lacked clear plastic for a certain period during production ? Or does it have something to do with the radio equipment??? I presume it's the last, but would love to hear other thoughts.

Alex

[cletrac (RIP)]

I looked through my collection of CMP pics and more than half of the ones with the canvas in place had mesh windows. Bear in mind that the ones with mesh windows had roll up curtains on the inside so it was likely a ventilation thing. I guess the curtains would be for blackout conditions too but I don't know for sure whether the plastic windows used them or not.

[Rob Fast]

I used to own this beautiful tarp. Here is as good a pic your going to see of the window makeup. Cheers Rob

[david moore]

David (Pope)
Going back to an earlier post of yours in this thread - was it only the radio version that had the lidded bins or did the personnel version have them too? Even earlier in this thread is a photo of my F8 before restoration - lidded bins, one seat in back and no trace of spare wheel holder. I'd particularly like to know what the spare wheel holder looked like - on the inner left side at the back of the box?
David Moore
Kingston

[cletrac (RIP)]

It was just the wireless versions that had the bins in the back. The Gs versions don't have any bolt holes in the fenders, None of the trucks I've seen have had the spare tire bracket in place so I can't help you there.