4X2 vehicle with steel tray - ID required

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Bruce Gilbert

Tony
Where would I look on the chassis for an ID? The vehicle has 4 very flat tyres, and is thus sitting close to the ground. I can arrange for the vehicle to be lifted for a better look see for chassis ID details.

Re. data plates; if they are missing, should I be looking for screw/rivet holes, the location of which would thus - possibly - tell me the vehicle/cab species.

Hanno
Yes, your picture looks a lot like 'my' truck.

Bruce

You may not find any number stamped on the chassis at all, that won't be in any way strange or unusual. If there is one, it will be on the forward part of the left chassis rail between the front spring hanger anfd the bracket for the cab mount, either on the face or top edge of the chassis rail. There have been instances of the number being in a similar position on the right ch rails.

If your truck looks like Hanno's pic, we can eliminate it being an MCP. It is a '42-'45 13 cab F15 Blitz!

The data plates (Canadian factory = Tin/Zinc) should be on the top surface of the dash above the speedo, as shown on the 2 examples pictured. The Aust Army nomenclature plate (Brass) will be on the engine cover, either on the rear facing sloping panel with the handle, or on the side facing the driver. (I've pictured my Jeep one for clarity )

In the absence of any data plates or chassis stamping, establishing the identity of the truck will come down to determining the year and engine number (Am I asking a stupid question to inquire if there is the remains of any painted number on the cowl either side of the bonnet?) Again, finding the engine number is not a sure bet! It could be in a couple of places on the engine or the gearbox as shown.

[Bruce Gilbert]

Gents - thanks for this info. I will doing some more research on this vehicle, hopefully Tuesday next week, and will report back soon after, hopefully with some piccies as well as more info, measurements, etc.

Thanks

Bruce

[Bruce Gilbert]

Folks

Herewith some piccies of this vehicle - a Ford as per its front axle cup.

I was not able to get it lifted of the ground. Its engine cover has no data plates on it nor in the cabin or on/near the dashboard. Could not even see a plate for high/low range instructions, etc.

As you will see the cab and tray are quite rusty; not sure if they can be restored. If another cab was fitted, would it be noticeable if it was from another Ford (a 4X4, as per one or more of my piccies.). Or even ......... a Chev? I ask this is because there is another cab available.


(more piccies to follow)

In anticipation, thanks.

Bruce

[Bruce Gilbert]

Some more piccies, this time a Ford 4X4.

The rear wheel with the attached gear sprocket is on the 4X2.

[Keith Webb]

The F15 is an Australian cab with a Canadian body which although rusty has it's wheel arch boxes intact. These were often cut off to give more clear space.

[Bob McNeill]

Nice find, most good bits repairable, the 4x2 is a good start point very straight forward resto no fiddly transfer case, parts easy to get. best of luck.

[cliff]

Originally Posted by Bruce Gilbert

If another cab was fitted, would it be noticeable if it was from another Ford (a 4X4, as per one or more of my piccies.). Or even ......... a Chev? I ask this is because there is another cab available.

The Ford Cab 13 which you have pictured has the same cab regardless of model (ie 4X2, 4X4, 15cwt, 30cwt, 60cwt) so the 4X4 cab will fit the 4X2. There are differences between the Ford and Chev 13 cabs though so it would pay to stick to Ford parts.

Rear original trays are very hard to get though so if it is repairable you are better to keep what you have even though it is an Aussie cab and Canadian rear tray you have pictured as Keith said.

[Keith Webb]

Originally Posted by cliff

The Ford Cab 13 which you have pictured has the same cab regardless of model (ie 4X2, 4X4, 15cwt, 30cwt, 60cwt) so the 4X4 cab will fit the 4X2.

To be a bit pedantic there are small differences in the floor plates in the rear of the cab between the F15, F15A and F60L but these parts are interchangeable.
Where I mentioned it has an Australian cab there are also quite a few differences between that and the Canadian one but either will of course fit.

That one looks like it has an unhealthy band of rust around the rear cab join.