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Old 14-09-09, 17:33
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Being old fashion, I still like to have a "hard paper" copy of manuals.... especially the MB - C2 which I have as a repro and an original. The original stays in the house.... the repro copy resides in the barn and is well worn and greased up in areas we have worked on like the T case.

The CD does have it's merits....... becaue Clive had access to original hi - res archivale pictures from FORD of Canada,(which includes some Chev.) on his CD you can actually enlarge the pictures on your computer, enhance the contrast, etc. which allows you to see details that would otherwise be missed and print a specific photo for the barn. That level of resolution his rarely found on the cheap CD sold on EBay for example.

Now if an equivalent set of unseen information/photos are available for Chev. from GM I would be in for a book or CD.

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Old 14-09-09, 21:38
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Wow!! Five orders from Australia in the course of 2 days! I can soon retire.
Thnx to all for your continued support of my efforts. I agree with all of you that a hard copy that you can hold in your hands and read in bed is best - as this is not possible due to the limited number of surviving copies the the CD is the next best thing - and certainly more affordable.

Although Bob and others have commented on the resolution of the images in the CD they are still low-res. I will repeat the offer I made previously; if you want a number (please, not all) of images in hi-res in order to zoom in on a particualr screw, just let me know and I will send them to you in a separate CD. Ask Rob about the HUP CD I burned for him.

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Old 15-09-09, 10:43
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Wow!! Five orders from Australia in the course of 2 days! I can soon retire.
Thnx to all for your continued support of my efforts.

Although Bob and others have commented on the resolution of the images in the CD they are still low-res. I will repeat the offer I made previously; if you want a number (please, not all) of images in hi-res in order to zoom in on a particualr screw, just let me know and I will send them to you in a separate CD. Ask Rob about the HUP CD I burned for him.

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Clive, although the images may not technically qualify for the title of Hi-Res, on my 19" monitor they are clear as a bell and do not want for clarity. Certainly far superior to the book printing methods of the 40's. I have also asked you in the past for a sample of individual pics in Hi-res, and yes they are much better, but the CD versions are fine.

For someone who wanted hard copies of any particular pic, Clive's special Hi-res one's would print nicely on A4 photo paper (which is actually an enlargement of the original 8"x10), and the CD ones would come out nicely on A5.
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Thanks Clive CD arived in todays post and plays fine.
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Thanks Clive CD arived in todays post and plays fine.
Same for me
Will keep me scrolling for a while
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...... becaue Clive had access to original hi - res archivale pictures from FORD of Canada,(which includes some Chev.)
Now if an equivalent set of unseen information/photos are available for Chev. from GM I would be in for a book or CD.


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Thanks to Brian Gough the CD includes hundreds of GM photos as well. These were made available to me in the same format as the Ford photos, i.e., hi quality, 8 x 10" prints on photgraphic paper. These also included GM captions which guarantees that the ID is correct.
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Old 15-09-09, 11:25
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Being old fashion, I still like to have a "hard paper" copy of manuals.... especially the MB - C2 which I have as a repro and an original.

The CD does have it's merits....... becaue Clive had access to original hi - res archival pictures from FORD of Canada on his CD ...... That level of resolution his rarely found on the cheap CD sold on EBay for example.

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The availability of any printed repro manual relies on the integrity of the repro'er as to how accurate and complete a copy you get.

It is possible to purchase from a variety of sources a hardbound copy of the "Ford Service Bulletins", the loose-leaf, bound technical references supplied by Ford to their service agents. These cover a variety of subjects and offer information on specs and tolerances, changes to components and helpful suggestions on maintaining Ford Vehicles. Unfortunately, the reprints tend to be the US version, and do not have the details of differences of Canadian produced vehicles. I have bought a 400 page Repro copy of the US Bulletins and there is much info missing that is in my original 750 page copy of the Canadian bulletins. That may be because the original copier of the US book chose not to include info they thought irrelevant, or their copy of the book may not have contained that information originally. The Service Bulletins predate the publication of the "Special Vehicles" and "MB-F1" manuals, so they contain gems of information relevant to the first Ford CMPs, MCPs and other military vehicles that are simply not contained in the repro books. (David,you might be interested in the Date of the info on the Transfer Case? )

Other Repro books that I have contain blatant errors and emissions, and once you make that realisation, you tend to distrust the info they contain as being an accurate representation of the original. Aussie Carrier owners will be aware of the LP2A Parts book with the missing page 13, and there is also a repro of the Boys Anti-Tank rifle book that has re-made the front cover to include a major spelling error! When you know they've gone to some lengths to doctor the cover, you tend to wonder what else has been altered within.
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Old 15-09-09, 11:47
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As I am ignorant about these things and so much more, is that a Ford case in the Novermber 1940-dated page please? Or GM?
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As I am ignorant about these things and so much more, is that a Ford case in the Novermber 1940-dated page please? Or GM?
I'd have thought it was a FORD case as it is pictured in a FORD service bulletin!
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Old 15-09-09, 14:06
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Is that a Ford case in the Novermber 1940-dated page please? Or GM?
The Bulletin does not specify the origin, design or manufacturer (Timken, McKinnons, etc) but deals more with "This is how it works, this is how to fix it". The cases are identical inside and it is just a casting mark that distinguishes the two "Brands" of case.
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Regrettably Fords used McKinnon-built transfer cases, especially in the 1940 Model year production, as Windsor Axle Plant was not equipped to build them, whereas the St Catherines plant had the benefit of GM licences. Of course the initial intention was that say Fords would say, supply cabs for both companies and GM other components. However this was abandoned as impractical pretty rapidly.
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