When did production of the #13 cab begin?

[Jason Ginn]

I am not certain if this helps but I recently found this Cab 13 C60L in Thorne, Quebec dated January 13, 1942 on the dataplate. The truck was a "Gas-2" petrol carrier but had last been used as a snow plow/salter combo. I thought that it was odd that the army registration number "64.914" was painted on the first coat of yellow paint. It may have last been used by the RCAF but i thought that they had a seprate numbering sytem for vehicles.

J

[cletrac (RIP)]

Here's a March 1942 Cab 13 data plate

[cletrac (RIP)]

Here's an earlier one.

[cletrac (RIP)]

Jason must have slipped that Jan 13 1942 one in when I was looking for my March plates. Here's a Nov 7 1941 Cab 12 so we have it narrowed down to within 67 days. Does anyone else have any in between?

[cletrac (RIP)]

After that last post I remembered these Nov 11 41 trucks so we're down to between Nov 11 1941 and Jan 13 1942.

[Jason Ginn]

The Infoex lists a 13 cab Ford F15a that was owned by Harry Salens with a build date of 1942/02/15 but no serial or engine number is recorded.

j

[Jason Ginn]

The database on the Canadian Register website includes the following examples with relevant dates.

Late 12 cab Chevys:

No. 42 Cab Chev Portee, Model 8440X2 fitted with a 7G1 body, located in Leics, UK.

Build date: Nov 21 - 1941
Chassis number: 1844031825
Engine number: 3742886
Contract: SM2028
Registration number: CL4595318


Late 12 cab Fords:

No. 12 Cab F8 WIRE. Located in Essex, UK.

Build date: Nov 13 - 1941
Chassis number: 21825
Engine number:2G-49525-F
Contract: SM2014


No. 12 Cab F8 GS. Located in Devon, UK.

Build Date: Nov 17 -1941
Chassis number: 21922
Engine number: 2G-49764-F
Contract: SM392


The Database on the OLD CMP website contains the following:

No. 13 Cab Ford F60s 448M. Located at a Sawmill in Daylesford, Aust.

Build Date: Mar 13 -1942
Chassis number: 37206
Engine number: 3G-19676-F
Contract: SM2104

So the Ford changeover was between November 17, 1941 and March 13, 1942 (I am a hesitant to include the Salens truck dated February 15, 1942 without any supporting serial number information), and the Chev change was between November 21, 1941 and January 13, 1942.

Does anyone else have numbers that could narrow the changover windows down?

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Aussie Gas-2
I was impressed by the data off the January 1942-build Gas-2! That is the earliest known (to me) 1942 MODEL C60L, and was clearly an Oshawa build for the Australian Government and not a) a Ministry of Supply order for Australia and b) a Holden-assembled truck.

David, why do you claim this to be an Aussie build??? Seems to me it never left Canada!

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

I have amended the offending word. It was clearly a CDLV contract!

[Phil Waterman]

Hi All

Years ago I had the pleasure of corresponding with Bart Vanderveen about when certain changes were made to HUPs. At that time some of the data bases which are now available were not. Bart's approach was to look at the changes in part numbers which often include notation of before or after such and such a serial number. Knowing the basic dates of the serial numbers to production dates gives a fairly tight dating. At that time Bart was trying to collect copies of all the various HUP parts books, I mailed him a June 1945 version.

Also at the CMP Forum in 84 memory says there was a discussion of when stuff happened, and a comment was made that cut dates are not as hard and fast as people might thing because parts in process could be used up after the change over date.

Cheers Phil

[Stew Robertson]

You are right Phil I remeber that story very well It was not as cut and dried as everyone was led to believe
I have the tapes but I am having a little problem desiphering them
I will try to find the answer
Stew