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Bren guns on post war jeeps
Was the Bren gun mounted on any post war jeeps? Specifically, the M38 or M38A1? If so, does anyone have any photos of same? Thanks, Darcy
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bren gun on jeeps
I have seen photos of Bren guns mounted on a dash mount of UN white M38A1 with sand tires. I think these were US provided vehicles and we adapted them for our use.
I have not seen them mounted on any other post war jeep photos being used within Canada. thanks Eric
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Re: Bren guns on post war jeeps
Darcy;
As quoted by Eric B.: "I have seen photos of Bren guns mounted on a dash mount of UN white M38A1 with sand tires. The two photos (Source: DND) below are of Canadian Reconnaissance Squadron patrols in the Sinai (UNEF) in the late 1950's, early 1960's. Cheers
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bren on post-war jeeps
any of the UN troops I saw fielded the converted Bren known as the LMG 7.62 always refered to as the Bren hope this clarifies the matter for you best regards malcolm
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Unlike the old Lee Enfield actions, the Bren was plenty strong enough to handle the extra pressure of the 7.62mm cartridge. For that matter, I never truly understood why we didn't field our 7.92mm Brens, to compliment the Besas used in English tanks??
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Jiff the way I understand it is our Nato partners voted for 7.62....regards malcolm
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Actually Malcolm, I meant in WW2, pre-NATO...
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Roger that Jiff however will have to take you to task on your comments.ref enfield rifle not being up to taking 7.62 rounds...in fact we had a rifle(SNIPER) and I think it was called a Fulton Conversion...anyways we had them on strength in our Sqn...best regards malcolm
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Ref the Bren, I was referring to the excellent 7.92mm Bren we manufactured over here for export (primarily to China). They were very good weapons and would have complimented the 7.92 Besas our British-based armour carried.
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- C3A1 Sniper Rifle - Long Range Sniper Weapon (LRSW) The ammunition used in the C3A1 Sniper Rifle is 7.62mm x 51mm NATO Match Ball The ammunition used in the LRSW is Amax .50 cal Match Ball Cheers
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I also saw an AR10 the other day all dressed up in Canadian garb. That is a .308 cal M16 type rifle. A small quantity were purchased for the no2 in the sniping team, and while these were supposed to be phased out as they broke, the troops love them so the weapons techs keep patching them up. |
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Rob; I'd forgotten about the C14 Timberwolf ... it totally slipped my mind ... old age I guess ... Cheers
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These are relatively new Armalite AR10s, purchased in the last four or five years. The guys claim to have more kills with the AR10 than with the C14 that it is there to support. As the AR10s fall into disrepair, they are supposed to be replaced with the C7CT, a heavy barrelled version of the .223 M16 type rifle, made by Colt Canada (formerly Diemaco).
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The AR-10 I fired was an original, predating the AR-15/M-16 series of rifles. It was one hell of a rifle.
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some years ago there was a masive batch for sale in Netherlands..at £250..00 per weapon...wanted one but my then wife wouldnt let me...so bought ex army SLR instead with Hensolt Scope..and used it on the Dear(no not her) with remmington 308........forst ranger said to me one day what will it do....put in mag of standard 308 ball...see that dry stone wall what wall....cheers malcolm
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Laterial thinking - Bren guns to sniper rifles
The 7.62 #2's rifle is a good idea. I am very surprised to see that these are not being properly supported. I had the idea these rifles were chosen as a long range standoff 'assist' for the guy on the .50cal, and therefore a legitimate part of the weapons family. At a glance the AR looks just like everyone elses' C7 rifle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for MGs on M38A1s, I saw a fellow who had his own machine gun mount on a Jeep. It replaced the windshield using the same hinge pins and over-centre locks. The idea was to hose clamp the barrel of a C2 LMG (a pi$$-poor replacement for the BREN in the opinion of anyone who shot both) to a T-spud. On the base was a butt keeper to secure the C2 across the vehicle, and a short length of tubing to hold the spud. I don't have any photos of this mount and am describing it from memory. The BREN mounts in the photos elsewhere in the thread have a more elaborate arm in place of the spud.
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interestly i have just aqquired a 7.62 LMG Bren from Sal at MDW Supplies Ltd in Birmingham UK...its to go in my champ which is being restored as used in Radfan Operation in Aden in the early 1960's...best regards malcolm
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Canada did not adopt the 7.62 NATO version of the Bren, but went with the FN C2 then C2A1 instead. Contact me and I can provide some historical photos of Canadian UNEF operated jeeps with Bren Gun fitted as I gathered UNEF pictures during the research for my small book THE FERRET SCOUT CAR IN CANADIAN SERVICE. Colin Stevens Seaforth72 at gmail dot com
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Love the variation in painting techniques for the two spare wheel assemblies!
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The front one might just have a new tyre on it??
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