looking for colour images of vehicles used in the desert after 1942

[cletrac (RIP)]

Richard,
You have to bear in mind that the base colour was desert stone or khaki in North Africa with the disruptive colour applied over there. When they went to Italy they were given the brown paint job but inside the engine house and other inaccessible places remained the initial colour. Some of the vehicles kept their Africa colours until they needed repainting in Italy. The same goes with the caunter scheme. Just because it was replaced end of 41 doesn't mean there weren't any vehicles still using it later in 42.
I kind of like that Syria/Persia scheme with desert stone and terra cotta. I wonder if they used that one on carriers too?
When you start painting your hull you just have to choose between the desert stone and khaki and can decide on the rest later.
The next truck I paint is going to have khaki base colour with the sand as disruptive since the sand colour shows oil leaks so much more on the undercarriage.

[Jordan Baker]

Richard

That small picture from the IWM is in Tunisia. Im off the mind that the carrier is painted SCC2 with the SCC1 (black) as the disruptive. That picture would have been taken in 1943. By that time carriers were being painted in the SCC2 colour.

The picture you posted is not the light mud and blue/black scheme used in Italy. Its my carrier painted for England in 1941-42 period. Its painted in KG#3 with the Black disruptive colour added as per pictures of the period. I played with the colour settings to give that image a washed out look.

Here is the original.

[RichardT10829]

hahaha well you have inadvertantly made it the colours i mentioned as the photo when printed out matches my swatches perfectly

[Jordan Baker]

strange becuase the KG#3 was matched to some original paint on parts. Just goes to show how close a lot of the original colours were. And also how much the colour can change between my screen settings and yours and what your printer is setup to print out.

I remember reading something years ago that stated alot were done so that they were the same tones in black and white photos.

[RichardT10829]

i was using a cannon bubblejet with with its own print wizard using kodak gold quality gloss photopaper, the swatches i have are in colour in Mike starmers book labelled SCC shade no 5 described as having a grey appearence with yellow brown cast introduced 1942, veterans describe it as khaki or dirty sand. and the black disruptive is SCC 14 (blue blackdisruptive).... i am only quoting from the book itself which is worth buying the guy seems to go to the Nth degree about paint colours and schemes.

found this on youtube which is very very close to the swatch but there is an awefull lot of light flooding into the lens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed6mq...eature=related

[sapper41]

Starmers books are pretty good i have to agree, he has spent an awfull lot of time in gathering the relevant documents together.

As for the comments on the schemes and dates it must be rememberd that supplies were critical and repaint jobs were really not on unless the situation really called for it. Thier are pics of vehicles and artillery pieces at alamien and they are still wearing the caunter scheme (granted i am biased as my truck is in that camo) If you have the history of the units he served with that could well point you in the right direction.
Have attached pic of truck so you can see the colours full bore as it were,
Middle stone, slate, silver grey

Regards
Tim

[Mark Mackenzie]

Light Mud was the colour for Sicily. It was considered too light for Italy. British AFV in Italy were repainted with green or brown paint until supplies of Olive Drab became available.