2010 at the Hammond Barn

[RHClarke]

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

Next tire will set up a tripod and do a step by step photo shoot....... we were to eager to make it work this time.I don't think we move fast enough for UTube....!!!!!Boob

Cecil B., er, Bob, I can video the procedure and edit it to make us look like we know what we are doing...we may need a few takes. Or we can time lapse it like Phil's teardown video. In any case, I really like Clive's idea.

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally Posted by RHClarke

Cecil B., er, Bob, I can video the procedure and edit it to make us look like we know what we are doing...we may need a few takes. Or we can time lapse it like Phil's teardown video. In any case, I really like Clive's idea.

And don't for get to at least stamp "Patent pending" on it and a number..

Looks good ..
Probably sell a few ..but who has so many CMP's that they would need one..??
But at $6 million a copy ..maybe..

[RHClarke]

It is hard to believe that there have been no postings from the barn since early February. So, it is time for an update. Three additions made their way to the barn in the recent past.

The first is my heavily modified C15 dump truck. It has a well done post-war modification that shortened its frame and has civilian pattern dual rims on back. The dump body will be removed and will be used to store our scrap metal. The engine will be assessed and eventually reused. The cab, sheet metal and bolt ons are in good condition and will be donor parts for other barn projects.

The other two additions will now allow us to cut and bend sheet metal for body work. A metal shearing machine and a metal brake now adorn the barn floor. Bob and Grant welded up some rolling metal frames for the new machines and they are now easily transportable.

On one of my all too few visits, Bob and I tested his spot welder. We put together replacement lips for my HUP's large sliding hatch. Our first attempt produced varied but useful results. New tips are being ordered so that we can get a little closer to the bends.

The barn was a very quiet place this past weekend as everyone was busy with other priorities. Just as well, the big melt is on and the grounds are very wet. Hopefully things will dry out this coming week.

[Phil Waterman]

Looks like you are setting up for some serious parts reproduction efforts with the new equipment on hand. What are the projects for the near future?

Cheers Phil

[RHClarke]

Originally Posted by Phil Waterman

Looks like you are setting up for some serious parts reproduction efforts with the new equipment on hand. What are the projects for the near future? Cheers Phil

Hi Phil,

Bob is putting together his doors for his Cab 11. I am not sure what Grant is up to. I am starting work on the Protoype HUP. The rear doors are in poor condition with the bottom sills and horizontal surfaces being extremely rusty. So I will be watching Bob and learning from his cutting and bending experiences.

Next step for me is to remove the roof from the Prototype and to weld it into a jig. Unlike my 45 HUP, the Prototype's roof can be salvaged. There will be a lot of cutting and welding to do along the drip edges and other rusted out places, but we now have all the necessary tools to do most of the body work - as long as it is 16 ga or thinner metal...

There is no shortage of things to do in Hammond. You can see our progress if you happen to stop in for BBB.

[Stuart Fedak]

Originally Posted by RHClarke

It is hard to believe that there have been no postings from the barn since early February. So, it is time for an update. Three additions made their way to the barn in the recent past.

The other two additions will now allow us to cut and bend sheet metal for body work. A metal shearing machine and a metal brake now adorn the barn floor. Bob and Grant welded up some rolling metal frames for the new machines and they are now easily transportable.

On one of my all too few visits, Bob and I tested his spot welder. We put together replacement lips for my HUP's large sliding hatch. Our first attempt produced varied but useful results. New tips are being ordered so that we can get a little closer to the bends.

The barn was a very quiet place this past weekend as everyone was busy with other priorities. Just as well, the big melt is on and the grounds are very wet. Hopefully things will dry out this coming week.

Nice to see the 16 Ga shear and metal brake . Looks like I have more reason to come to visit. Those are two items I always dreamed of getting, but no space to put them at home. While I was at University of Manitoba, I worked at Dominion Bridge during the summer. That was a big structural steel plant in Winnipeg. They had huge shears and brake press, and I was able to go in on the weekends to make all sorts of things. Their scrap piles were better than most steel service centres. Dominion Bridge was one of the manufacturers of the Bren Carriers in WWII. That was where I learned arc and MIG welding, as well as operation of huge radial drills and other machines.

I will have to bring out some Iltis repair panels and use them to make up other parts that I need for restoration. Nice thing about the Iltis is many of the body panel parts are square, so can be made up.

Last year I made up some muffler heat shields. I had the 16 Ga steel cut locally and used the metal brake at Algonquin College to put in the bends. I used the old muffler heat shields as a template and drilled the holes. (I guess I should post images)

One item I have to make up for the Iltis is some gas tank straps. Easy job using 18 Ga mild steel to make the strips. Then cut out some sections and spot weld using MIG welder.

Keep me in mind for some MIG welding. I need the practice.....

Cheers!

Stuart

[Bob Carriere]

Hi Stu

Will bend backwards to accommodate you...... do drop in.....

I am now working on the skins for the cab11/12 doors..... also inner skin panels for the cab...... everything that was touching the arches or near the floor was rusted and very "Holy"...... some can be patched but it is almost easier to replace the whole panel. Now we can bend, shape and spot weld.... Mig is always there for the bigger jobs. I am still working with the large .035 wire/gas but will switch to the lighter .025 wire/gas for the thin gauge sheet metal..... and practice....

The welder needs to have the polarity changed inside before I can use the small wire..... can't figure out why but it as to be done. I might even practice doing gas butt welds..... difficult but very precise if you do not constantly burn holes in the metal.....Like Stu says....practice... especially perfect practice does give perfect results.

I also have to do the rear cab skin..... including bending the angle iron according to Phil's documented process.... may use some of the new metal glue to attach center ribs as the spot welder can't reach that deep.


Eventually will build a "rotisserie" ( at least one any ways) to facilitate the reverse engineering of the 2B1 cargo box. That will no doubt necessitate using the large HD pan box brake at the fabricator or his large hydraulic bending press..... the largest gauge on the box is 11 gauge..... most of it is 14 gauge. The problem with the cargo box is that some sections are 90 + inches long and even a modest 12 gauge pan box brake at $4000 can only handle 48 inches.

....but we are having fun.....

Boob

[Stuart Fedak]

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

Hi Stu

Mig is always there for the bigger jobs. I am still working with the large .035 wire/gas but will switch to the lighter .025 wire/gas for the thin gauge sheet metal..... and practice....

The welder needs to have the polarity changed inside before I can use the small wire..... can't figure out why but it as to be done. I might even practice doing gas butt welds..... difficult but very precise if you do not constantly burn holes in the metal.....Like Stu says....practice... especially perfect practice does give perfect results.
....but we are having fun.....

Boob

I have some welding to do on the Iltis body, and I want to cut up some of the Iltis repair panels I have, for practice panels (so I am using the same guage mild steel to practice on). I have a nice DVD that I picked up from Miller welding that shows the correct technique for patch butt welding. It is a slow process, as you have to let the metal cool to prevent warping and burn out, but the results are amazing. I also picked up some small devices for holding the patch panels in place. I might also try out the flattened copper pipe behind the panel technique. Anyways, I want to do this on some practice pieces before doing the Iltis body.

I will see if I can make a copy of the DVD for educational purposes for the Hammond Barn library......

Cheers!
Stuart

[Grant Bowker]

Flattened copper pipe has limited heat absorbtion capability. How do I know? By burning through some while filling in rust perforated inner fenders on my cab 13 floor. If you are working on flat surfaces, 1/4" copper plate works better as a heat sink. There are a few pieces at the barn but if you want some for your home welding shop take a look at Cohen's on Merivale Rd. or if that doesn't fit your needs check the Metal Supermarket on Sheffield Rd. (soon to become Superior Metals - they are not renewing their franchise agreement - same location and phone numbers as at present).